*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

[eyetrip]

Nothing wrong with the Asus Prime B350M-A other than feeling like an £80 board (which is what it costs) - supports XMP out of the box and is running here with all 4 x 8GB sticks @ 2666mhz populated - even on the shipping bios but have updated to the newest of the 3 available and its still all working perfectly here.

It has also been in stock virtually everywhere since launch. I wanted a micro-ATX X370 board but there arent any so settled for a B350 "in-the-hand" rather than wait for anything else to be in stock until there are but I might keep it permanently now.

That just makes me think even more there is issues with my board.

Couldn't run 4 sticks anywhere over 2133. The 2 X 16gb I have now, won't even run realbench for 30 min without dying.

 

[8 Pack]

Run defaults to check.

 

[eyetrip]

Run defaults to check.

I have, many, many times.

Stock dies.

 

[8 Pack]

Is it power delivery issue?? Max out the digital power settings and try.

 

[the wopster]

Is it power delivery issue?? Max out the digital power settings and try.

My Prime B350M-A won't run the ram over 2133mhz either, it rated at 2400 but with my i7 6700 ran at 3000mhz with ease

 

[Beren]

Interesting review those thinking of a Nvidia 1880Ti to go along with your Ryzen.
Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti CPU Showdown: i7 7700k Vs Ryzen R7 1800x Vs i7 5820k

Minimum FPS are quite good for Ryzen

http://www.eteknix.com/nvidia-gtx-1080-ti-cpu-showdown-i7-7700k-vs-ryzen-r7-1800x-vs-i7-5820k/

Flawed review is Flawed. Either test all chips at stock or all chips at the max sensible O/C or do both. Only putting the 1800X up overclocked is not a good move IMO.

Also in light of all the other reviews and findings going around they should have had a couple of statements to confirm what power management settings etc were being used.

That being said the minimums they show are awesome. I am really interested to see what real difference we see in market share and overall market volume in Q2 & 3 once stock and drivers have matured. I can see this exciting a lot of people that have been sitting patiently on old AMD platforms or older i7 and i5 setups.

 

[eyetrip]

Is it power delivery issue?? Max out the digital power settings and try.

Rma set up.

Am done trying to figure this board - got way better things to do with my time

 

[Troezar]

Rma set up.

Am done trying to figure this board - got way better things to do with my time

There's only so far you can go with a brand new product, it should work out of the box. If it's a beta product it should state as much and be cheap or free!

 

[Drollic]

Flawed review is Flawed. Either test all chips at stock or all chips at the max sensible O/C or do both. Only putting the 1800X up overclocked is not a good move IMO.

Also in light of all the other reviews and findings going around they should have had a couple of statements to confirm what power management settings etc were being used.

That being said the minimums they show are awesome. I am really interested to see what real difference we see in market share and overall market volume in Q2 & 3 once stock and drivers have matured. I can see this exciting a lot of people that have been sitting patiently on old AMD platforms or older i7 and i5 setups.

They have put the 1800x up at stock and at 4.1?

 

[jjwf]

Flawed review is Flawed. Either test all chips at stock or all chips at the max sensible O/C or do both. Only putting the 1800X up overclocked is not a good move IMO.

Also in light of all the other reviews and findings going around they should have had a couple of statements to confirm what power management settings etc were being used.

That being said the minimums they show are awesome. I am really interested to see what real difference we see in market share and overall market volume in Q2 & 3 once stock and drivers have matured. I can see this exciting a lot of people that have been sitting patiently on old AMD platforms or older i7 and i5 setups.

I totally agree, that is one of the most flawed if not the most flawed testing I have ever seen.

 

[Andy321]

Can't get my 16GB kit Corsair LPX 3000Mhz (CMK16GX4M2B3000C15) to boot past 2400 with my B350 Tomahawk. I know theirs issues with the BIOS and compatibility at the moment but starting to worry whether it's a problem with my board.

I don't whether to pick up a Gigabyte gaming 3 while in stock and try that?

 

[nkuk]

Asrock Taichi supports ECC, and it works in Linux.

TL;DW:

• Basic board overview.
  
  
• [AM4 is a ] Great platform for Linux. If you are building a PC today specifically for Linux and workstation, its hard to suggest anything else.
  
  
• Support ECC memory.
  
  
• IOMMU grouping not the greatest, wait for patches.
  
  
• Showed a quick GTA5 benchmark teaser. (!!!)
  
  
• 1800X OC'ed to 4.2GHz, all cores(check description for validation links).
  
  
• His 1800X-OC Beats 7700K(4.5GHz, stock boost) in CPUZ & but not in Cinebench at single-threaded tests.
  
  
• Got RAM speeds to 3200MHz(GSkill Trident Z) stable on the latest BIOS.
  
  
• Allows overclocking through PStates instead of OC'ing via multipliers and voltage. (Possibly an AsRock only feature?)
  
  
• More overview of the UEFI.
  
  
• More GTA5 in-game benchmarks. No comparison, but FPS at a rock-solid 130-140+, dipping to 90-100 only a few times.
  
  
• New platform, new software therefore rough around the edges. Should be normal eventually.
  
  
• Great platform for parallel computing and workloads which require 8 cores.
  
  
• For single core workloads or apps which aren't heavily multi-threaded, it will not beat a 5GHz Quad Core(7700K).

Thanks for posting this! Its encouraging to see that he was able to get 4.2Ghz with 3200mhz ram with the early BIOS and microcode, hopefully there will be some more optimisations that can be made, I look forward to seeing what I can get out of my 1800X when my Taichi mobo turns up. It was also good to see everything was working fine with Linux and all the onboard components have driver support, it seems the Ryzen really flies as a Linux workstation!

 

[EvilFranky]

They have put the 1800x up at stock and at 4.1?

Exactly. One of the worst reviews ever seen? Really? Ridiculous over exaggeration.

The OC'd 1800X is clearly there to show what you can gain from a stock 1800X, not in competition to the Intel chips at stock, anyone with the ability to apply reason could cipher that out. But it doesn't fit in with their rhetoric, so is dismissed as a nonsense review. It's what? An extra 100Mhz?

Ryzen clearly shines and shows its raw power in anything that is designed from the ground up to use more than 8 threads.

It wins about half of those tests, all games you can buy and play now, not 2 years away, with further architecture fixes and optimisation to come.

Those minimums are excellent, Ryzen is for now, it's a superb alternative and legitimate upgrade path for anyone stuck on older 4C CPU's. It will only shine brighter over the coming year.

 

[WeSbO]

Is there any kind of general consensus at the moment on which would be the best MB to purchase ? Also is the 1.45v safe voltage confirmed ? Coz it looks like with the proper cooling 1.5/1.55v isn't out of the realm of possibility... I'm debating on whether I should get Ryzen or not I've got a 4790k at 4.8, and though it is sufficient for what I need, more power for encoding and my DAW/VSTs would be welcomed, But it's more so that i like the fun of overclocking, and at the moment OC on ryzen seems pretty straight forward and boring ...

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Thanks for posting this! Its encouraging to see that he was able to get 4.2Ghz with 3200mhz ram with the early BIOS and microcode, hopefully there will be some more optimisations that can be made, I look forward to seeing what I can get out of my 1800X when my Taichi mobo turns up. It was also good to see everything was working fine with Linux and all the onboard components have driver support, it seems the Ryzen really flies as a Linux workstation!

Microsoft are really slow at getting Windows 10 up to standard for Ryzen it seems. Even Windows 7 is giving better performance than 10, especially in gaming.

Hopefully that issue, along with Motherboards is sorted out soon. It's really putting a nasty blemish on what is an amazing new processor line.

Those minimums are excellent, Ryzen is for now, it's a superb alternative and legitimate upgrade path for anyone stuck on older 4C CPU's. It will only shine brighter over the coming year.

You been drinking the same stuff Flopper has mate? Haha, reminds me of Flopper's Polaris comments last year a bit.

 

[Jokester]

I'm not sure on the voltage side of things, reviews tend to show once you go over about 1.4V power usage goes through the roof so I think there's a fundamental limit as regards current leakage there that normal top end air/water isn't really going to overcome.

 

[Jumper118]

Is there any kind of general consensus at the moment on which would be the best MB to purchase ? Also is the 1.45v safe voltage confirmed ? Coz it looks like with the proper cooling 1.5/1.55v isn't out of the realm of possibility... I'm debating on whether I should get Ryzen or not I've got a 4790k at 4.8, and though it is sufficient for what I need, more power for encoding and my DAW/VSTs would be welcomed, But it's more so that i like the fun of overclocking, and at the moment OC on ryzen seems pretty straight forward and boring ...

its not straight forward at all. It's not high speed, but there are loads of new things to play with

 

[8 Pack]

1.45v is top voltage for 24-7 with good cooling. I checked with AMD.

 

[Zeed]

I would blame Amd for... Rushing this cpu out... Think they could have waited for feedback from reviewers/testers and for manufacturers to make some boards..

Lets face it most of people here are stuck without motherboards and people that got em workig got smaller or bigger problems.

I should be ok on memory side since went gskill my ripsaws4 have hynix on them afaik them boarss atm dont like those thata why i gotten new memory. Also i hope that by monday asus fixes that self bricking bios up. God help us all...

Cpus are good but well rushed in my opinion.

 

[WeSbO]

But wouldn't AMD be conservative when it comes to voltage, meaning not taking into account a decent custom cooled rig, higher end fans and what not ? Especially at launch. Because Gibbo didn't seem to woried by his 1700 at 1.55 when he was first going at it, or is it more that after 1.45 it is unstable, or are they saying it in the way that 1.55v would reduce life span ? Because imo a "do not do" is different from "it will reduce the lifespan".