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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

You win the Internet! :D

On a more serious note though after my experience with Asus CH6 and my backup prime plus board I think erring on the side of caution with Asus is a good idea.

I agree, I'm finding the Asus board a right mare and if I had lots of money I would take great pleasure taking it outside and giving it some good ol' 12guage treatment, 56g 3" buckshot should do the trick...

I do need to make sure that my Cosair memory isn't borked though, it's been running fine in my intel system for over a year at 2600mhz so no idea why it can't even do 2400 with lax timings in this board...

I really want the MSI Mortar but seems we will have to wait even longer for it :(
 
Any chance you have any actual facts/sources to back up that sweeping generalisation that most/majority (I think that's what you meant) of gamers overclock?

So you think its ok to oc one cpu in a bench but not the other? Do you have any facts to back up they don't? The people I know who build their own pc's and game, none of them are sitting on stock cpu's.
 
But wouldn't AMD be conservative when it comes to voltage, meaning not taking into account a decent custom cooled rig, higher end fans and what not ? Especially at launch. Because Gibbo didn't seem to woried by his 1700 at 1.55 when he was first going at it, or is it more that after 1.45 it is unstable, or are they saying it in the way that 1.55v would reduce life span ? Because imo a "do not do" is different from "it will reduce the lifespan".

Generally speaking sticking to under 2x the stock TDP is a good rule of thumb. At 1.55v in certain tasks, you'll be over.
 
I'm not interested in stock as I doubt the multitude of gamers are. Its flawed, you cannot oc one cpu in a test and leave the other stock. Does it get any extra out of the 1800X even if it is only 100mhz?

Yeah sorry but I don't agree at all with this. Out of the 20 or so people I game with online I know that 2 of them manually overclock their PC's the rest leave them stock. They just want to buy what works for gaming and play.

It isn't flawed, people keep telling you to ignore the OC of the 1800X and just compare stock to stock and the 1800X still has excellent results.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGuKdALBSDY

1700@4000Mhz getting spanked of a 6700@4000Mhz, under 60 FPS in some areas on ryzen this with a 1070, i would not be pairing it up with a 1080ti.

And? Again all this proves is some software isn't well optimised yet. It's clear to see that the 1700 is barely breaking a sweat.

Fallout 4 one of the oldest engines around, based on the Fallout 3 engine which in turn was based on the Oblivion engine which was released 11 years ago.
 
Yeah sorry but I don't agree at all with this. Out of the 20 or so people I game with online I know that 2 of them manually overclock their PC's the rest leave them stock. They just want to buy what works for gaming and play.

It isn't flawed, people keep telling you to ignore the OC of the 1800X and just compare stock to stock and the 1800X still has excellent results.

Of course it's flawed, he could have oc the 7700K and put the results up and if people wanted to take just stock they could have, instead he choose not to.
 
Of course it's flawed, he could have oc the 7700K and put the results up and if people wanted to take just stock they could have, instead he choose not to.

But that doesn't make it flawed, it makes it incomplete! There is a big difference. The stock to stock still shows the results that the Ryzen R7 series isn't getting creamed by the i7 series chips. That is the point.

It still shows factual results of what I know the majority of my friends would be gaming at because they buy parts and build them and leave stock or get me to build them of which I offer to OC their equipment if they want and 9/10 say no because they are happy to just let it run cool and quite and get the performance out the box and will upgrade as needed when something new drops.

There is no reason to call the shown numbers flawed because you want to see i7 7700K at 5.0GHz.
 
And? Again all this proves is some software isn't well optimised yet. It's clear to see that the 1700 is barely breaking a sweat.

Fallout 4 one of the oldest engines around, based on the Fallout 3 engine which in turn was based on the Oblivion engine which was released 11 years ago.


Here we go, it will get better with software said that about faildozer, here and now is what counts.
 
Dear God guys, give it a rest... You disagree, move on. Nobody wins Internet arguments...

Besides, I'm waiting for someone to post 'just ordered XYZ board' so I know to go look and may miss it for all the bickering :D
 
Elaborate what? That this is a overclockers forum so most people will overclock on here. I would say that's fairly representative of gamers who oc.

Yes I understand that, hence why I said the results would likely be biased.

What would making a poll on this forum, which is specifically about overclocking, achieve exactly? The result you're looking for I guess.

OverClockers is not some sort of supreme authority on all things PC gaming, it would not be the ultimate indication of how everyone uses their machines.
 
Its all AMD's fault....

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It seems that even centuries into the future things never change.

AMD give us cutting edge tech like Walter

While the competition give us the B-9 Class M-3 General Utility Non-Theorizing Environmental Control Robot

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Sent a webnote to OcUK to change to shipping to Saturday delivery, the Asrock Taichi are hopefully coming in today. Otherwise will have to change it back to regular delivery and back to my office address.

I have become overwhelmingly impatient for this pre-order :D
 
Besides, I'm waiting for someone to post 'just ordered XYZ board' so I know to go look and may miss it for all the bickering :D

Ask and ye shall receive. I just finished a web chat with a sales agent at another retailer and he said they should be getting their K7 stock in today but only 2 will be free for pre-orders. I just got one of those.

Now to pray this really isn't cake time.
 
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