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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

gavinh87 said:
Subject matter expert?
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Aye, managed to get the system booting of a single stick of Crucial ram, updated to BIOS Version 1.14 and she lives!!! System now fully up and running just updating drivers.

I have requested the RMA be cancelled :)
 
N19h7m4r3 said:
Microsoft are really slow at getting Windows 10 up to standard for Ryzen it seems. Even Windows 7 is giving better performance than 10, especially in gaming.

Hopefully that issue, along with Motherboards is sorted out soon. It's really putting a nasty blemish on what is an amazing new processor line.

You been drinking the same stuff Flopper has mate? Haha, reminds me of Flopper's Polaris comments last year a bit. :p
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From the benchmarks I've seen there's quite a noticeable performance improvement with the 4.10.1 kernel vs earlier kernels, hopefully MS will be able to do similar optimisation with Windows 10.
 
Jokester said:
I'm not sure on the voltage side of things, reviews tend to show once you go over about 1.4V power usage goes through the roof so I think there's a fundamental limit as regards current leakage there that normal top end air/water isn't really going to overcome.
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Agree the 1700 at 65 tdp once you pump 1.45+ @4.0+ it sky rockets to over 180 :(

I think 1700 @ 3.9 / 3.8 at the lowest volts it will do is the better option
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Cough,anybody notice this:

https://twitter.com/20thcenturyfox/status/839883776914173952

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Its all AMD's fault....

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Watching the Ryzen and C6H threads over on Overclock.net and seeing more C6H motherboards biting the dust, I might not setup my build until a new bios comes out that bypasses the issue. (CPU and Mobo arrive today) :(

...This because the BIOS update bug kills the embedded controller (EC) and one of its functions is to manage the power on sequence. You can still make the board POST by forcing a power on as you say, but there will be other issues since the microcontroller is not working properly in the first place.

...I hope we can have a BIOS which prevents this from happening this week, but no promises. We have at least managed to reproduce the issue which should speed things along.
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Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS

New beta BIOS in the works. Probably looking like a Friday or early next week release.
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jjwf said:
I totally agree, that is one of the most flawed if not the most flawed testing I have ever seen.
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Just ignore the OC 1800X though and check out the stock. The OC is so minimal that it really isn't worth checking. Coming from that as said if you take into account the 1700 can get to the 1800X then what is handy is to see the performance you can get for the 1700.

But yeah for drop and play the stock to stock results are handy. The 7700K no doubt closes the gap in places when OC'ed but bearing in mind it lags behind in stock to stock but bear in mind it turbos to 4.5GHz so your still comparing 4.0GHz to 4.5GHz at stock.
 
WeSbO said:
Is there any kind of general consensus at the moment on which would be the best MB to purchase ? Also is the 1.45v safe voltage confirmed ? Coz it looks like with the proper cooling 1.5/1.55v isn't out of the realm of possibility... I'm debating on whether I should get Ryzen or not I've got a 4790k at 4.8, and though it is sufficient for what I need, more power for encoding and my DAW/VSTs would be welcomed, But it's more so that i like the fun of overclocking, and at the moment OC on ryzen seems pretty straight forward and boring ...
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The thing is it's no differnt in regards to OCing the 4790K in honesty. There isn't the same to get to some decent base levels but both can be rewarding to eek out that last 100Mhz and that is the challenge. With Ryzen you also get the fun of playing with your RAM more, with the Intel it is generally pick the profile these days.

Each to own but as a 4790K owner I would not be picking up one now for Ryzen 1700.
 
Curlyriff said:
Just ignore the OC 1800X though and check out the stock. The OC is so minimal that it really isn't worth checking. Coming from that as said if you take into account the 1700 can get to the 1800X then what is handy is to see the performance you can get for the 1700.

But yeah for drop and play the stock to stock results are handy. The 7700K no doubt closes the gap in places when OC'ed but bearing in mind it lags behind in stock to stock but bear in mind it turbos to 4.5GHz so your still comparing 4.0GHz to 4.5GHz at stock.
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I'm not interested in stock as I doubt the multitude of gamers are. Its flawed, you cannot oc one cpu in a test and leave the other stock. Does it get any extra out of the 1800X even if it is only 100mhz?
 
Minus1337 said:
There are two other retailers that are listing today as getting stock in of the K7 gaming. Even though I know it's a lie I want it so desperately to be true!
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How do you know it's a lie?

I'm watching all of them like a hawk.... Gigabyte gaming 5/K7, Asrock Taichi/maybe one of their other higher end boards.

While the Asus X370 Prime Pro is a safe bet (for getting one), I am avoiding Asus on this chipset. MSI are just too stingy on SATA ports...
 
jjwf said:
I'm not interested in stock as I doubt the multitude of gamers are. Its flawed, you cannot oc one cpu in a test and leave the other stock. Does it get any extra out of the 1800X even if it is only 100mhz?
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I'm not entirely sure that's true anymore, tbh.
 
jjwf said:
I'm not interested in stock as I doubt the multitude of gamers are. Its flawed, you cannot oc one cpu in a test and leave the other stock. Does it get any extra out of the 1800X even if it is only 100mhz?
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Any chance you have any actual facts/sources to back up that sweeping generalisation that most/majority (I think that's what you meant) of gamers overclock?
 
eyetrip said:
How do you know it's a lie?

I'm watching all of them like a hawk.... Gigabyte gaming 5/K7, Asrock Taichi/maybe one of their other higher end boards.

While the Asus X370 Prime Pro is a safe bet (for getting one), I am avoiding Asus on this chipset. MSI are just too stingy on SATA ports...
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Because my gut feeling tells me this is like the cake from Portal.
 
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