*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

[ubersonic]

So its RIP dual core CPUs (2007 - 2017) on April 11th

The Athlon X2 and Pentium D arrived in 2005

 

[Hotwired]

If I understand you correctly your saying that your perceptible performance feels no different when going from a 6700k @ 4.7 to a stock 1700X?

I'm thinking if making the jump from a 3570k myself. And was debating the gaming performance.

You're going to be disappointed if you fork out for the new shiny for improved gaming performance.

The best reason to buy one is for the work potential and have decent gaming potential on the side. It's plenty good enough for gaming but better than what you have... nah.

 

[eddiew]

Any juicy leaks about 1600x overclocking potential? Mildly concerned by it still being a 95w part, but the price is nice!

 

[Hagar]

My Hero finally came in last night and I started putting things together. Can anyone tell me if there is supposed to be a seal on the Asus box? The one I got was not wrapped in plastic, or had not seals to keep it closed. Everything was in the box, and it looked unopened.

Mine was similar. The ROG packaging fits so tight to the board that sealed antistatic bags do not fit. The ROG box did not feel quite as top tier as previous iterations but still quite substantial.

 

[16979]

whats the latest bios update for the ch6 board

 

[=XDC=FluphyBunny]

Before I re-install windows did a quick run on WOT this morning.
I do not see any difference in fps, maybe feels bit faster and doesn't freezes on shots with a lot of smoke. But that could be my perseption.
But for sure the fps is not less than the 6700K @ 4.7 if not more (1700X at stock speeds). And that's a single threaded game, with the audio processed on second thread only.

It would be great if true but I have my doubts that Ryzen at stock is beating your old 6700k at 4.7GHz on single threaded performance in WOT.

 

[JediFragger]

Testng Ryzen on the CPU Physics heavy area's in Crysis 3 with 4 GPUs. Previously my 5960x would drop some FPS in the grassy area's.

Matt, you state 4 GPU's but am I going mental or is it using just 1 of them?

 

[d_brennen]

Any juicy leaks about 1600x overclocking potential? Mildly concerned by it still being a 95w part, but the price is nice!

The rated TDP has little to do with overclocking ability, I wouldn't expect more than 3.9-4.2GHz in the first iteration of Ryzen, due to design/process maturity

Hopefully we get native quad core (1x CCX) parts, which without some of the fabric may clock very high

 

[chroniclard]

You're going to be disappointed if you fork out for the new shiny for improved gaming performance.

The best reason to buy one is for the work potential and have decent gaming potential on the side. It's plenty good enough for gaming but better than what you have... nah.

Is it really no better than a 3570k....

 

[RavenXXX2]

Is it really no better than a 3570k....

In games that support more than 4 threads yes it is. Plenty of reviews showing the quad core maxed out and well behind ryzen.

 

[LtMatt]

Matt, you state 4 GPU's but am I going mental or is it using just 1 of them?

You are going mental, Si. GPU utilization ranges from 85-95% over all 4 GPUs. At those settings 1 Pro Duo core without CrossFire gets around 30FPS.

It should be noted that when i stop recording using Relive, GPU utilisation goes up to 95-100% consistently.

 

[opethdisciple]

Is it really no better than a 3570k....

Yea someone else threw this at me in another thread. I highly doubt I wouldn't see an uplift in games going from a 3570k to a 1700X?

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

AT thinks that the R5 1500X has 16MB of cache and the R5 1400 has 8MB of cache:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11202/amd-announces-ryzen-5-april-11th

We have confirmation from AMD that there are no silly games going to be played with Ryzen 5. The six-core parts will be a strict 3+3 combination, while the four-core parts will use 2+2. This will be true across all CPUs, ensuring a consistent performance throughout.

So it seems the R5 will be a dual CCX design.

 

[d_brennen]

Yea someone else threw this at me in another thread. I highly doubt I wouldn't see an uplift in games going from a 3570k to a 1700X?

If *all* you do is gaming, right now the best upgrade would probably be a new GPU. The 1700x is a better CPU for everything else (and I dare say will be better for gaming as time goes on)

 

[RSR]

The Athlon X2 and Pentium D arrived in 2005

Doh.

 

[Orcvader]

AT thinks that the R5 1500X has 16MB of cache and the R5 1400 has 8MB of cache:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11202/amd-announces-ryzen-5-april-11th



So it seems the R5 will be a dual CCX design.

Well, I suppose it does make it consistent with the higher end models. Shame though, a single CCX CPU would've been a fantastic budget gaming CPU, with no latency issues holding it back.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5zob94/microsoft_is_now_blocking_windows_7_and_windows/

When you try to scan or download updates through Windows Update, you receive the following error message:

Unsupported Hardware

Your PC uses a processor that isn’t supported on this version of Windows and you won’t receive updates. Additionally, you may see an error message on the Windows Update window that resembles the following: Windows could not search for new updates An error occurred while checking for new updates for your computer. Error(s) found: Code 80240037 Windows Update encountered an unknown error.

Cause

This error occurs because new processor generations require the latest Windows version for support. For example, Windows 10 is the only Windows version that is supported on the following processor generations:

• Intel seventh (7th)-generation processors
• AMD “Bristol Ridge”
• Qualcomm “8996"

Because of how this support policy is implemented, Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 devices that have a seventh generation or a later generation processor may no longer be able to scan or download updates through Windows Update or Microsoft Update.

Resolution

We recommend that you upgrade Windows 8.1-based and Window 7-based computers to Windows 10 if those computers have a processor that is from any of the following generations:

• Intel seventh (7th)-generation "Intel Core" processor or a later generation
• AMD seventh (7th)-generation (“Bristol Ridge") processor or a later generation
• Qualcomm “8996" processor or a later generation

I understand how Windows 7 would not be updated going forward, but Windows 8? Really?? It has standard support from Microsoft until January 2018.

I don't know about anyone else here, but I love Windows 8.1 with Classic Shell. It has everything I need out of a Windows OS, however when it comes to Windows 10 it just feels wrong in some way to me.

Personally I'm still going to be running Windows 8.1 even when I get my Ryzen rig. Thanks Microsoft for another XP-era!

Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

Looks,like MS is now blocking Win7 updates if you install Ryzen or Kaby Lake.

 

[Mtom]

Yea someone else threw this at me in another thread. I highly doubt I wouldn't see an uplift in games going from a 3570k to a 1700X?

Closest i know is a mate gone from [email protected] to [email protected] he said its night and day.

 

[opethdisciple]

Problem I have is finding a full proof methodology for testing an overclock. My CPU at 4.5Ghz can pass 2 hours each of real Bench stress and benchmark, and then do 4 hours straight gaming in the Division and BF1. Other times such as last night wouldn't even load up the Division without a blue screen. Upping vcore didn't help, kept blue screening. Temps where hitting 79c and voltage was creeping up past 1.34v +.... In the end the fact even with constant 0.1v increases it was blue screening in the Division I gave up on increasing vcore and backed down the frequency.

There is a thread for 8 hours Ryzen stability testing.... do I have to run prime 95 for 8 hours to prove stability?

I'm pretty sure I've done this in the past and it still fails eventually in games.

 

[ubersonic]

Looks,like MS is now blocking Win7 updates if you install Ryzen or Kaby Lake.

This is a bit of an epic fail by Microsoft. First they make Windows 10 Anniversary update a mandatory update despite it causing fairly widespread issues, then they block people with Kaby/Ryzen CPUs from using anything else. GG Microsoft, GG >.>