*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

[opethdisciple]

Not used either of them boards so can not give any info apart form the carbon being pricey and does go to 11
i have however been hearing good things re Gigabyte gaming 5 and for the b350 the msi tomahawk

Yes the 1700non x will be a great upgrade

you can contact Noctua there is a form here for free kit
http://noctua.at/en/noctua-offers-upgrade-kits-for-amd-s-ryzen-platform-free-of-charge

Thanks!

 

[SupraWez]

 

[eyetrip]

Are Asus on the ball with bios updates for their boards?

If you have the crosshair, yes.

Everything else they treat like a ginger step child with scabies - they may throw some scraps in their direction to keep from completely starving, but don't give much beyond that.

 

[CEUOTC]

If you have the crosshair, yes.

Everything else they treat like a ginger step child with scabies - they may throw some scraps in their direction to keep from completely starving, but don't give much beyond that.

MSI have been quite good updating the Tomahawk. It shipped with BIOS 1.0 now on 1.32

 

[opethdisciple]

If you have the crosshair, yes.

Everything else they treat like a ginger step child with scabies - they may throw some scraps in their direction to keep from completely starving, but don't give much beyond that.

Ha ha! Surely it cant be that bad!? I see you have a 1700 and the Asus X370 Prime Pro which is what I am tempted to buy.

Happy? Whats your gaming performance like?

As for BIOS I have seen that Asus released a new one for that board just 2 days ago. So feel more confident about it.

Really my heart was set on the 1700X, but with the 1700 so cheap atm I am tempted to get that instead.

 

[eyetrip]

Ha ha! Surely it cant be that bad!? I see you have a 1700 and the Asus X370 Prime Pro which is what I am tempted to buy.

Happy? Whats your gaming performance like?

As for BIOS I have seen that Asus released a new one for that board just 2 days ago. So feel more confident about it.

Really my heart was set on the 1700X, but with the 1700 so cheap atm I am tempted to get that instead.

Yes, there was one a couple of days ago - first in a month.

Still doesn't leave numlock enabled
Still doesn't allow for downclocking at idle when overclocking
Still doesn't run memory any better than 2666.

At least they added the ability to disable SMT.

Oh! And some really, really useful setting for performance bias based on what benchmark you are running!

Generally, the boards fine. But I don't hold out much hope of 32GB+ getting much faster than 2666, so am considering just getting some slightly slower 64Gb to last me some time.

 

[muon]

Those temps are wrong.

Look like the 20C offset occurring.

 

[opethdisciple]

Do we think that XFR might be improved in the future via BIOS updates to boost more than the current 100Mhz?

 

[eyetrip]

Actually, scratch what I said above - I just ordered 64GB of HyperX HX430C15PB3K4/64 on a warehouse deal for £323. Considering they normally sell for £600, I figured why not? I can run it slower, and if by some miracle they ever do increase support, I'm sorted.

 

[Matrix]

What boards are most of you guys using for the Ryzen then please?

Is the Taichi or killer any good ?

Thank you.

 

[Spec-Chum]

Do we think that XFR might be improved in the future via BIOS updates to boost more than the current 100Mhz?

I think it's completely locked on the actual chip, I don't think it can be edited by BIOS

 

[Spec-Chum]

What boards are most of you guys using for the Ryzen then please?

Is the Taichi or killer any good ?

Thank you.

Crosshair with with a big old 1700 strapped to it.

 

[sityeuropa]

Which bios are you now on? I've gone back to F6c which seems like a good plan as they pulled F6d

On F6D, I saw it was pulled, not had any issues with it though myself.

 

[Matrix]

Crosshair with with a big old 1700 strapped to it.

On F6D, I saw it was pulled, not had any issues with it though myself.

Thank you for your replies is there much difference between all the boards ?

 

[gavinh87]

Thank you for your replies is there much difference between all the boards ?

I had a MSI tomahawk originally then upgrade to the crosshair. The difference is night and day. It seems the crosshair is the most popular and thus has the most support from other users. Asus themselves have been talking to the guys in the overclock.net
I can't speak for the asrock boards.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

1700 vs 6900K with RX 480.

The AMD chip is such amazing value for money, especially if you're into video editing, where both AMD parts will shine, and also like some gaming.

 

[gavinh87]

Actually, scratch what I said above - I just ordered 64GB of HyperX HX430C15PB3K4/64 on a warehouse deal for £323. Considering they normally sell for £600, I figured why not? I can run it slower, and if by some miracle they ever do increase support, I'm sorted.

That's an excellent price for that. Hopefully you can get some decent speeds in time.

 

[opethdisciple]

Spent the day looking at reviews and benchmarks between the 1700 and the 1700x.

The consensus is just buy the 1700?

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Spent the day looking at reviews and benchmarks between the 1700 and the 1700x.

The consensus is just buy the 1700?

Yup, both clock to around the same of 3.9-4.0Ghz, and you save money.

 

[KrisWragg]

Just reporting in on my tinkering today,

1700X @ 3.9Ghz on Asrock Taichi, offset voltage 7500 ends up as 1.376v under load (LLC set to Auto)
2x16Gb @ 2933 18-20-20-40 1.375v SOC 1.1v

Had a bit of struggle trying to hit 4.0Ghz stable so given that up for now and was working on RAM speeds, currently 2933CL18 is my limit with this 2x16Gb 3200CL16 kit. Not sure what the max safe SOC voltage is, pumping it to 1.1v from 0.9v helped a lot, I think I've seen people at 1.2v but not sure if that's safe for 24/7 usage?

http://valid.x86.fr/0z7ely