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N19h7m4r3 · 20 Jul 2017 at 09:20

Asus are bringing out a Crosshair 6 Extreme motherboard. Starting price is $349

https://videocardz.com/press-releas...ers-introduces-crosshair-vi-extreme-for-ryzen

Yaayuh! · 20 Jul 2017 at 09:41

N19h7m4r3 said:
Asus are bringing out a Crosshair 6 Extreme motherboard. Starting price is $349

https://videocardz.com/press-releas...ers-introduces-crosshair-vi-extreme-for-ryzen

What's the difference?
Is that just the CH6 with the WiFi module and things moved about?

Hagar · 20 Jul 2017 at 09:43

N19h7m4r3 said:
Asus are bringing out a Crosshair 6 Extreme motherboard. Starting price is $349

https://videocardz.com/press-releas...ers-introduces-crosshair-vi-extreme-for-ryzen

At first initial glance does not seem to add a lot for another $100 (£100) except wifi (and is that a 90 degree power connector?). Will be interested to see if parallel development still occurs with the Hero, I hope so. Current Hero spec board is still the current best bet for overclocking IMO.

Yaayuh! · 20 Jul 2017 at 09:56

nkata said:
At first initial glance does not seem to add a lot for another $100 (£100) except wifi (and is that a 90 degree power connector?). Will be interested to see if parallel development still occurs with the Hero, I hope so. Current Hero spec board is still the current best bet for overclocking IMO.

There's a 90 degree ATX connector, more headers down the bottom as they've moved the buttons and the chipset heatsink is different (bigger?)

N19h7m4r3 · 20 Jul 2017 at 09:57

Rossi~ said:
What's the difference?
Is that just the CH6 with the WiFi module and things moved about?

nkata said:
At first initial glance does not seem to add a lot for another $100 (£100) except wifi (and is that a 90 degree power connector?). Will be interested to see if parallel development still occurs with the Hero, I hope so. Current Hero spec board is still the current best bet for overclocking IMO.

Yeah it only really adds Wifi, USB 3.0 headers, and a 90 degree 24 pin; but it's EXTREME! So that's worth the extra £100

haszek · 20 Jul 2017 at 10:46

jaffveyda said:
I have v5.39 & v4.24 - the first one fails to boot higher that 2666Mhz second one is stuck @2933Mhz. Going from i7 860 my minimum & maximum fps improved a bit. Also the overall room temperature has dropped considerable. During the heat with outside temps of 32 degrees my CPU was running at 95 degrees with Bequiet cooler.

I have 4.24, they're on e-die. 4 sticks running nice on CL14 3200 on my CH6. But had to set 1.45V on memory and 1.15 soc

jaffveyda · 20 Jul 2017 at 17:28

Just tried with 1,45V and no post. 3066Mhz maximum that i managed to load to windows. With 16-18-18-54 tim.
Would 3066Mhz be more beneficial or 2933 with CL14 timings?

SupraWez · 20 Jul 2017 at 18:47

jaffveyda said:
Just tried with 1,45V and no post. 3066Mhz maximum that i managed to load to windows. With 16-18-18-54 tim.
Would 3066Mhz be more beneficial or 2933 with CL14 timings?

Run benchmarks with both and see which works better for you.

The IF is linked to memory speed so may depend on the task which one works best.

Nutty_Death · 20 Jul 2017 at 20:51

##moved to another thread.

RavenXXX2 · 20 Jul 2017 at 22:43

gavinh87 · 21 Jul 2017 at 05:01

RavenXXX2 said:

The complete opposite happens when people are not using ancient engines that use 1 or 2 cores. I posted a pubg streaming video a while back and the 1800x was quicker than even the 7820x whilst spanking the 7700k.

B1gbeard · 21 Jul 2017 at 08:27

gavinh87 said:
The complete opposite happens when people are not using ancient engines that use 1 or 2 cores. I posted a pubg streaming video a while back and the 1800x was quicker than even the 7820x whilst spanking the 7700k.

The 1800x winning is the complete opposite to the 1700 winning? The video shows the 1700 as the better streaming option?

Thekwango · 21 Jul 2017 at 08:31

gavinh87 said:
The complete opposite happens when people are not using ancient engines that use 1 or 2 cores. I posted a pubg streaming video a while back and the 1800x was quicker than even the 7820x whilst spanking the 7700k.

huh? didn't watch the whole video - just jumped to the end but he summed up by saying the 1700 was the better recommendation for streaming than gaming or am I miss understanding?

B1gbeard said:
The 1800x winning is the complete opposite to the 1700 winning? The video shows the 1700 as the better streaming option?

that's what I thought?!

I is a confused puppy! :confused:

B1gbeard · 21 Jul 2017 at 08:33

Thekwango said:
huh? didn't watch the whole video - just jumped to the end but he summed up by saying the 1700 was the better recommendation for streaming than gaming or am I miss understanding?

that's what I thought?!

I is a confused puppy!

Over sensitive fanboy alarm maybe.

gavinh87 · 21 Jul 2017 at 09:22

Thekwango said:
huh? didn't watch the whole video - just jumped to the end but he summed up by saying the 1700 was the better recommendation for streaming than gaming or am I miss understanding?

that's what I thought?!

I is a confused puppy!

Your right, i skipped most of it. It was 5am!!
Forgive me please

gavinh87 · 21 Jul 2017 at 09:24

B1gbeard said:
Over sensitive fanboy alarm maybe.

I'm far from a fanboy. I didn't watch the whole thing. In fact I only saw the dirt results. I was in a rush.

Thekwango · 21 Jul 2017 at 09:42

gavinh87 said:
Your right, i skipped most of it. It was 5am!!
Forgive me please

yea no probs lol
in fairness I jumped to about mid way and he seemed to be pointing out numbers that indicated that the 7700k was far superior, it was at this point I was a tad confused and just bailed to the end to hear his conclusions.

gavinh87 said:
I'm far from a fanboy. I didn't watch the whole thing. In fact I only saw the dirt results. I was in a rush.

think maybe your post was misconstrued. having read quite a few of your previous posts across the various threads something tells me your the least likely person to be classed as a fanboy.

gavinh87 · 21 Jul 2017 at 12:15

Thekwango said:
yea no probs lol
in fairness I jumped to about mid way and he seemed to be pointing out numbers that indicated that the 7700k was far superior, it was at this point I was a tad confused and just bailed to the end to hear his conclusions.

think maybe your post was misconstrued. having read quite a few of your previous posts across the various threads something tells me your the least likely person to be classed as a fanboy.

Thanks buddy

SiDeards73 · 21 Jul 2017 at 12:43

Whats more poignant about that embarassing video from that Steve Burke (the clues in his name tbh) is he pretty much does all he can to make the tests favour Intel, but the power is just not there for the Intel CPU, admittedly more cores is always going to beat higher clocks and lower core count in this type of test.

I really detest that dude, its so blatantly obvious if you watch his stuff he is so dismissive of AMD and pro Intel / Nvidia and thats not just me as an AMD fan saying it, many people have pointed this out.

Even though he OC'd the 7700k and left the 1700 at stock (seriously, who does that?) the 1700 still won... what i dont get is, if your going to OC one CPU why not both? simply stating "Well the 1700 is going to win, but lets see how the 7700k OC's fares" etc is rubbish, OC them both so you can actually see how much better OC'd the 1700 is? or is he afraid of the result and what Intel will say to him even more?

the guys a moron, end of.

DragonQ · 21 Jul 2017 at 13:23

I just don't like the style of the videos. I zone out of what he's saying because it's just way too much information. You don't need to quickly quote loads of numbers to 1-2 decimal points in a confusing manner, that's the point of the on-screen graphics. Just summarise what the graphs show man, not the numbers behind them.

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