Android - Slightly Hyped IMO

I agree that Android seems to be overhyped, especially on here, I don't think it's quite there yet, I still prefer iOs as it actually feels like a finished product unlike Android...

I would say iOS is overhyped especially if you visit the apple forums so what?

If anything the iPhone is more overrated than Android & that is a fact.

I've used my friends DHD for a few hours & it didn't feel like an unfinished product at all, Quite the opposite actually.
 
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No, you need to install custom rom to make some phones work, because of phone company branding and in ability to program.

Are you really trying to say that the phone companies really sell phones that don't work out of the box? Let alone consumers still buying them if they don't just work.
My desire literately worked straight out of the box. If anything any problems I've had have been down to my messing.

Apple where first, android should have included stuff like that. I still don;t have proper copy and paste on android. All because it's a stupid customisable os and so you don;t get instant updates from android themself.

Again, the copy and paste feature works fine in 2.2, I'm not quite sure what you mean here :D

because it's only a basic screening and doesn't pick everything out, darn site better than no screening though
Personally, I see where your coming from here. But surely no screening is better than partial screening because then you've not had somebody telling you that it is safe :S Thats just imo

Really those are up points, loads of free services on iphone which are great and do all that.
I think Mekrel point here is that these features already come built into android, however, on ios like you've said are available through apps which the end user has to get thus customising their phone....

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You have to remember as well that iOS has been around longer than Android, Android only really took a foothold over the past 18months.

Think back to the first iPhone days, you guys didn't even have copy and paste and were having signal issues all over the place and you still don't have wifi tethering!


Thems were the days that "changed everything, again" :p
iOs is definitely better than it used to be, I think it does do tethering now but it certainly has taken a while for certain features...

As you say Android is still the new kid on the block, and I'm gonna sticking with iOs for now, at least until Android seems to be a more finished os...
 
Yep over hyped.
customisation is rubbish, how many people actually want to install new roms just to make a phone work. How many people actually want to customise a phone. A tiny portion. Most people idea of customisation is installing a weather app or something.

Apps are extremely buggy as they have no tests or restrictions.
he phones are buggy and clogged up, They should not allow custom roms and they should limit hardware comparability.

So so many downsides and the only up side is you can get cheap phones unlike Apple/W7P

However saying that it's pretty good, it does what you want, once you've faffed about and installed a custom rom.

Wow.. just wow.
 
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I don't think Android is over hyped, Its just a different approach.

Its different, because it is highly flexible, has Widgets and properly multitasks. This comes sat the expense of inevitable slight 'lag', and Google are still developing a lot of the UI elements.

With a BB, you get very restricted/tight feature set, but the core elements of SMS/email/contacts is smooth, and once you adapt yourself to its way of working, going to Android will be weird. IOs is also different, it has Apps, but they aren't that cohesive, and with no Widgets, you again have to adapt and learn the apple workflow..
Android allows you to create and design your own workflows, you can use Widgets, or choose a more tailored app, with many apps working quite coherently together, it offers flash support and a choice of good browsers, and largely all the same location/data apps as on an iPhone.

HTCs SenseUI is probably the best out the box experience if you just want to be given a more fixed feature set as per other OS's, but put a little time/effort in, and you can really tailor the phone around you, and once you do, you suddenly realise why Android is a credible OS that does trade occasional lag for flexibility.

Horses for courses....
 
I'm using a HTC Hero with Sense UI and while sometimes I may get lag it's a very seamless experience, I've known many friends with the Desire & one with the original nexus and they are flawlessly fast.

Also it has true multitasking, unlike most other devices which are limited.

I think Android, if anything is very underrated.
 
Is it possible for a phone OS to be "too customisable"?

I almost think that Android tries so hard not to be iOS, that it goes too far. I agree with Acidhell on many points - the Market NEEDS to be actively monitored in some capacity, and crap apps filtered out. And I found the battery life on my Desire to be absolutely atrocious.
 
yep remove orange branding, make it play mp3s with out skipping, some Android phones may be fine others aren't. Because they allow custom roms and don't restrict hardware. Two massive failure points, along with apps, that constantly crash and seem to have no screening. where apple must do at least some basic screening, as I never had that problem on iphone.

Seriously, what are you talking about? Do you actually believe that phones are released without being able to fulfill basic functions?
 
Seriously, what are you talking about? Do you actually believe that phones are released without being able to fulfill basic functions?

This, and how are you getting so many bugs from the apps? The developers must love you! (if you report errors)
 
Seriously, what are you talking about? Do you actually believe that phones are released without being able to fulfill basic functions?

:rolleyes: perhaps go read some threads on cheaper phones, mp3 skiping and messed up foms.
Products are released all the time that are sub standard phones are no different.
 
:rolleyes: perhaps go read some threads on cheaper phones, mp3 skiping and messed up foms.
Products are released all the time that are sub standard phones are no different.

I've used a San Francisco quite extensively, how much cheaper can you get? I've had no problem's using it, and neither have many other people. The fact that so many new apps are being submitted to the android market doesn't make android any less of a decent OS either?
 
It's part of the ecperince if uou get apps failing it is very annoying. With out apps an os is pretty pointless, also a bit confused why abdroid has so few official apps.

Many of us have had problems with the orange rom.
 
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Hi all

Just thought I'd share my experiences on moving handsets fast in last few months...

iPhone 3GS (iOS 4) to Blackberry 9700 Bold (OS6) to Desire HD (Froyo)

It's a tough one, after using the HD for a few days now I do miss my BB, which in turn made me miss iPhone also.... don't get me wrong, Android is fantastic for tweaking, but it's not as productive as using a BB handset, or as smooth as a iOS device.

I think I commented a few weeks back on not wanting to go Android until they were lag free and super fast... someone piped up 'well my HD is', well.... I don't think it's quite there yet. It's fast, but not iPhone fast. (and the odd little slow down / judder does IMO ruin the user experience a little). It's productive, but not BB productive. Kinda sits in the middle...

I could have gone Nexus S on contract, I hope I made the right choice :( ....just got swept away by that huge screen, which even only LCD, does a very good job. I wonder if it's just the Sense UI slowing it down abit ?

Oh dear! You have dared think that something is better than Android! Saying that in here will show you the Android fan boy responses which in my opinion seem worse than the Apple fanboys! I'd don my flameproof suit if I were you haha :D
 
It's part of the ecperince if uou get apps failing it is very annoying. With out apps an os is pretty pointless, also a bit confused why abdroid has so few official apps.

Many of us have had problems with the orange rom.

When you say official, do you mean from big developers? If so, I agree. That's probably down to Android having a smaller market share in the mobile phone industry though.

Oh dear! You have dared think that something is better than Android! Saying that in here will show you the Android fan boy responses which in my opinion seem worse than the Apple fanboys! I'd don my flameproof suit if I were you haha :D

Constructive ;)
 
The problem with "certain" devices isn't really android's fault... It's the people who release the dam roms on the phones, which I'm pretty sure you said earlier. The phones still work but on some there are a few issues, but not enough so to say "android phones don't work unless you get a custom rom", the problem isn't as big as you seem to imagine either, it's the age old problem of reporting, people make threads and posts when something doesn't work, but not so much when they do work ;)

The failing apps thing is also pretty subjective, current phone I'm pretty sure I haven't had a force close in at least two weeks and I haven't come across an app that didn't work at all in a very long time.

Either way it's all pretty much a moot point as I still don't understand what problems the OP has had with the Desire HD, the phone is fast and smooth... Even with around 200 apps clogging it up I wouldn't have sat there and thought to myself "maybe sense is slowing it down"...
 
:rolleyes: perhaps go read some threads on cheaper phones, mp3 skiping and messed up foms.
Products are released all the time that are sub standard phones are no different.

Every device ever produced will have a percentage of their production run with faults. It's what happens when you mass produce things. That's what it looks like you're talking about to me - the fact that some people have had issues. Big deal? I had one pair of Nikes start making ludicrous squeeking noises due to falling apart within a few weeks of purchase - doesn't mean the Air Force One is fundamentally flawed or that Nike as a whole make bad kicks; it was just one sneak... nearly all my other pairs have lasted years.

Do you see? All things have problems. The cheaper you go, the more likely you are to encounter problems, and the higher the fault rate from the manufacturing process will be.

This is not inherent to Android.
 
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