Soldato
So if what I am hearing is true the 7800XT is as fast as a 4070ti in raster, has more vram and costs £300 less.
lmao, that's a home run right there
lmao, that's a home run right there
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Any news on 7800 xt?
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Caporegime
I might be that AMD has developed multiple different ways to do it, so it might not be as fast or accurate on older AMD and Nvidia GPU's, they may even be using ROCm as a translation layer for Nvidia's AI and that's how they got it working on Nvidia GPU's, much to Nvidia's annoyance i'm sure.
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7800XT roughly same performance as 6800XT at similar price to EOL 6800XT. What are they supposed to say?
7700XT overpriced compared to the 7800XT, will fall over next few months and then be fine.
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Let's hope we get a little news sometime soon, been happy with the XTX besides this news (which is beyond poor for a new card series imo).
Not from what I saw. Comparable to 4070 in vendor selected benchmarks.So if what I am hearing is true the 7800XT is as fast as a 4070ti in raster, has more vram and costs £300 less.
lmao, that's a home run right there
I wish, going on AMD's own slides it's more like as fast as a 4070.So if what I am hearing is true the 7800XT is as fast as a 4070ti in raster, has more vram and costs £300 less.
lmao, that's a home run right there
Soldato
I think we need all of this to be released first - for all that we know it works better on RDNA3.
Caporegime
Its cheaper than the EOL 6800XT and by the looks of it faster (admittedly not by a huge amount) If the 6800XT was meant to be the good value competitor to the 4070 then the 7800XT just betters that, they can't have it both ways, tho they do try because they think whinging gets them clicks. So all they do now is whinge.
As for the 7700XT, well that's even cheaper than the 4070.
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Anywho....
For those who don't know AMD have developed an API called ROCm, with it AMD can execute CUDA on AMD GPU's..... aww crap! -Nvidia
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Soldato
No way. They have enabled RT, but in the titles without it it hammers the 4070. Just as how the 6800XT also hammers the 4070 in raster.
Remember I said raster. I am 100% totally uninterested in superfluous rubbish like RT.
You sure about that, last time i checked you can port CUDA to ROCm and they generally both address GPU compute, but i didn't think you could simply run CUDA code on an AMD GPU.
You've been looking at some very different slides than everyone else.
Soldato
Looks like same price. 6800XT has been available for £500 for a while now, with the 6950XT at £600.
That said it does have much better RT performance than the 6800XT and will use a lot less power no doubt.
Caporegime
Could have recently had a 6950XT at £599 though.
7800XT is just another meh release.
AMD and Nvidia just enjoying stagnant releases.
In fact I'd say AMD are now worse price/performance than they've been with their most recent deals.
Looks like I'm sticking with my RX6800.
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Soldato
No, I haven't.
Look closely. Everything it loses in has RT on. Stop misreading my posts. I ONLY CARE ABOUT PURE RASTER.
Those charts make it about the same as the 6800XT. Which is much faster than a 4070. In fact, it is around as fast as the 4070ti.
Huh the 4070 is similar to the 3080, 6800xt and 3080 are similar as well this is raster
Need to see 3rd party 7800xt reviews
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Biggest red flag to me was comparison to 2070 Super, then 4060Ti and 4070. No Gen on Gen comparison.
7700XT was cheaper but I think only low single digit faster than the 4060TI 16GB in the vendor aggregated score so not a real comp to 4070.
Pricing not much cheaper and any positivity assumes it beats the 6800XT.
Pricing will settle a bit and then we'll have a couple of decent mid range cards backed up by FSR3 but until we get benchmarks in a couple of weeks it's all just hype.
Soldato
They are not. The 6800XT was almost as fast as a 6900XT. In some titles it was identical. In pure raster terms it was nearly as fast as a 3090. Why do you think Nvidia released a 3090Ti?
It may well be a coincidence, but I don't play any titles with RT in. As such I completely ignore it and concentrate purely on the raster.
Caporegime
The 6800XT was $650, the 3080 10GB $700
Its now $500, while its not a great deal faster its actually brought it in to the price range for some one like me, the 6800XT never was and the 4070 isn't either.
As a 2070S owner i'm pretty happy, its going toi get me a very sugnstatial performance upgrade for the same money i paid for that 2070S.
Then you're reading it wrong. That slide is comparing the RTX 4070 12GB with the RX 7800 XT, not the 4070 Ti.No, I haven't.
Look closely. Everything it loses in has RT on. Stop misreading my posts. I ONLY CARE ABOUT PURE RASTER.
Those charts make it about the same as the 6800XT. Which is much faster than a 4070. In fact, it is around as fast as the 4070ti.
Or are you only looking at the top two games or maybe think the 4070 Ti is like only 5-10% faster than the 4070?
Soldato
The 4070 ti is 10-15% faster than the 4070. If and when I completely ignore the RT results (as I do) then on average it is around the same. 10-15%.
Caporegime
Lets also not forget that everything Nvidia launch has pushed even me with 2 gen old card out of the upgrade cycle for this generation of theirs entirely.
AMD at least has given me an option, and its a good one. Two options in fact...
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