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Any news on 7800 xt?

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Yea it's still not great compared to where we were when i bought my current PC 5 years back but in this day i think it's as good as it's going to get on a release gpu. It's close to old school high end prices for the Mid range card but i need an upgrade and this fits the bill in the current climate.

That old school is 10 years ago now. The 2080 was $799 on launch and the 2080Ti was $1199 on launch , the 2070 was $599. Heck the GTX 1070 Founders Edition was $449 , 7 years ago
 
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The thing that gets me is how they're trying to obfuscate the price increases. I get it, it *maybe costing them more but what's peeing me off is how they're trying to hide the price increases behind all the silly reshuffling of model names.

*debatable but OK lets just accept that it is.

Well, Nvidia do that too, but they also rob you of VRAM as well.
 
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For sure and what i said wasn't directed exclusively at AMD, the product stacks from both companies is totally FUBAR.
 
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I'll have to wait and have a look at the 7800XT AIB's have to offer, the ref card looks funky. I just can't bring myself to spend a chunk of money on something that isn't pleasing to my eyes.

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The thing that gets me is how they're trying to obfuscate the price increases. I get it, it *maybe costing them more but what's peeing me off is how they're trying to hide the price increases behind all the silly reshuffling of model names.

*debatable but OK lets just accept that it is.

Yea they are both at it. The biggest one was Nvidia trying to call the RTX 4070 replacement a 4080 with 12gb Vram while wanting to charge £900 for it. Luckily AMD had the 7900 cards so they changed it to 4070ti and still took the ****. Amd did similar with the 7900xt (The real 7800xt) at £900. Horrible time to upgrade.
 
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That old school is 10 years ago now. The 2080 was $799 on launch and the 2080Ti was $1199 on launch , the 2070 was $599. Heck the GTX 1070 Founders Edition was $449 , 7 years ago

I got my Vega 64 for £450 with 3 games 5 years back so there was still decent deals in place at the time. Only the 1080ti and Titan cards were faster at the time. The 2 series had not released at the time. Even when it did release it was still just about on par with a 2070 as Vega aged well.
 
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For the 7800XT.
With 5% more CU's the RX 7900XT is 23% faster than the 6900XT, so 18% more performance per CU.

If you add that on top on the RX 6800 here, which also has 60 CU's it comes in at 77% (4K) on this chart putting it a couple of % above the 6800XT, 7000 series has had some minor overall performance upgrades since this review so maybe at 80%, that puts it 1 percentage point behind the 6900XT, or = to, which is probably what AMD were aiming for. its a 6900XT.

The 7700XT 12% lower puts it at 70, 7% higher than the RX 6800, or 33% higher than the RX 6700XT. Or 62% higher than the 2070 Super.



The 6700XT was $480
The 6800 $580
The 6800XT $650
The 6900XT $1000
The 2070 Super $500

The 7700XT $450
The 7800XT $500
 
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I'll have to wait and have a look at the 7800XT AIB's have to offer, the ref card looks funky. I just can't bring myself to spend a chunk of money on something that isn't pleasing to my eyes.

:D
AIB cards pictured here.. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/all-the-amd-rx-7800-xt-and-rx-7700-xt-graphics-cards

and here .. https://www.tweaktown.com/news/9302...els-from-asrock-asus-sapphire-more/index.html

Think i'll be getting the 7800XT, probably Sapphire as usually the better AMD partner. Will see how benchmarks look next week but should be a decent upgrade from my 3060Ti which i only got for the NVENC Encoder.

Funny that i have been testing my 5800X3D x264 encoder recently and for streaming with Fast preset @8000kbps it looks better than NVENC.. Hope Twitch adapt AV1 sooner than later, might be sooner since YT added HEVC for streaming and already do AV1.

Nvidia must price high because they think everybody is a streamer and have to pay for AV1 privilege :cry:
 
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Didn't even know these guys were still going....

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Seems that the RDNA3 stack is finished;




weird, cause there is a massive price gap between the 7600 and 7700 and again between 7800 and 7900

7600 to 7700 is the worst, you have to pay almost double to move from a 7600 to 7700 - $249 vs $449

And MLID says the 4060ti is going to get a price cut, so now Nvidia cards will slot into that gap which isn't great for amd
 
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weird, cause there is a massive price gap between the 7600 and 7700 and again between 7800 and 7900

7600 to 7700 is the worst, you have to pay almost double to move from a 7600 to 7700 - $249 vs $449

And MLID says the 4060ti is going to get a price cut, so now Nvidia cards will slot into that gap which isn't great for amd
Has to be a 7500 in there at some point :D
 
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The Sapphire Pulse, having watched a lot of reviews on all sorts of cards these last two years everyone seems to like the Pulse, they are well built with a capable cooler, a good sense no frills inexpensive card.

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weird, cause there is a massive price gap between the 7600 and 7700 and again between 7800 and 7900

7600 to 7700 is the worst, you have to pay almost double to move from a 7600 to 7700 - $249 vs $449

And MLID says the 4060ti is going to get a price cut, so now Nvidia cards will slot into that gap which isn't great for amd

What happens to the 4060? is that now going to be $199 or is it unlaunched? :D

Frankly the 4060Ti 8GB needs to be unlaunched and the 4060Ti 16GB to take its place at $299, the 8GB version is just a waste of sand.
 
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Seems that the RDNA3 stack is finished;

The good news: no Navi 24 successor.
The bad news: huge gap between the monolith Navi 33 and the chiplets Navi 32.
Due to packaging cost, further cutdown of Navi 32 seems unlikely.
Looks like RDNA3 was badly planned, far less risky would have been two monoliths and chiplet above that.
 
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The Sapphire Pulse, having watched a lot of reviews on all sorts of cards these last two years everyone seems to like the Pulse, they are well built with a capable cooler, a good sense no frills inexpensive card.
I'll most likely get the Pulse so that i dont have to move my AIO radiator from the front on my case.. seems i cant fit a triple fan card in my Corsair 400C with it at the front.

Would be nice to go back to an all AMD system again though :D
 
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