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Assuming the 7700XT is gonna cost way more than the 25% expected performance difference over the 6750XT I picked up last month...
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Any news on 7800 xt?
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Caporegime
IMO its basically this for $450 or if you want more VRam its $50 more and we'll throw in a few more CU's for good measure......
Soldato
The best value has always been in last gen. You avoid all of the new thing taxes.
Caporegime
Well, the 6800 has been around £430 for a while, the 7700XT will cost about the same with a little more performance and newer features but less VRam.
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AMD have plenty to play with looking at the 7700xt or 7800xt which are just better cards full stop.
Soldato
MLID says there will be an unofficial price drop for the RTX4060TI 16GB to match the RX7700XT 12GB. The problem is that the latter will come bundled with Starfield Premium for the next few weeks and the RTX4060TI comes only with a Overwatch 2 Battlepass.
Also many people forget the RTX4060TI is PCI-E 8X card,so on older PCI-E 3.0 systems there is a slightly performance drop. The AMD cards have a full speed PCI-E data link.
If Nvidia wanted to make a proper move they would replace the RTX4060TI 8GB with the RTX4060TI 16GB. They did this when the R9 380 4GB released,and the GTX960 2GB essentially replaced the GTX960 4GB.
I do wonder if Nvidia will bundle Phantom Liberty with some cards? I am surprised they don't bundle the Cyberpunk 2077 and Phantom Liberty bundle for their more expensive cards! Dropping the price of the RTX4070 12GB and including the full game might be enough to counter the RX7800XT.
Also many people forget the RTX4060TI is PCI-E 8X card,so on older PCI-E 3.0 systems there is a slightly performance drop. The AMD cards have a full speed PCI-E data link.
If Nvidia wanted to make a proper move they would replace the RTX4060TI 8GB with the RTX4060TI 16GB. They did this when the R9 380 4GB released,and the GTX960 2GB essentially replaced the GTX960 4GB.
I do wonder if Nvidia will bundle Phantom Liberty with some cards? I am surprised they don't bundle the Cyberpunk 2077 and Phantom Liberty bundle for their more expensive cards! Dropping the price of the RTX4070 12GB and including the full game might be enough to counter the RX7800XT.
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Soldato
12gb on 1440p is absolutely fine for now. Had no problems with my 6700XT in that regard.
I am still of the "there is such a thing as too much vram for a certain spec of card".
Soldato
I would say it is an issue for ones costing over £600. I think for cards such as the RTX4070 12GB it is less of an issue,although more VRAM is useful.
Soldato
Absolutely. At this tier though? I reckon it is enough.
Besides, who wouldn't stump up the extra and buy a 7800XT any way?
That's sort of my plan now, stay one gen behind. Still have pretty current hardware, avoid a lot of the FOMO tax and bugs. That's the theory anyway
AIB cards pictured here.. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/all-the-amd-rx-7800-xt-and-rx-7700-xt-graphics-cards
and here .. https://www.tweaktown.com/news/9302...els-from-asrock-asus-sapphire-more/index.html
Think i'll be getting the 7800XT, probably Sapphire as usually the better AMD partner. Will see how benchmarks look next week but should be a decent upgrade from my 3060Ti which i only got for the NVENC Encoder.
Funny that i have been testing my 5800X3D x264 encoder recently and for streaming with Fast preset @8000kbps it looks better than NVENC.. Hope Twitch adapt AV1 sooner than later, might be sooner since YT added HEVC for streaming and already do AV1.
Nvidia must price high because they think everybody is a streamer and have to pay for AV1 privilege
Looks like the Nitro for me If I buy one, I like the look of the Pure though for a changeup though.
The two fan cards are out for me, as I prefer the superior cooling and noise, and unlike most people I like a big chonker of a card!
I think we all know by now the 7700XT will not hold its price for long and likely settle around £370
Caporegime
Yeah to between $450 and $470, might as well not bother.... with a 20%+ performance gap to the 7700XT that is now a $399 card.
Soldato
My second PC is running a Powercolor RedDevil 5700XT and a Samsung G9 Oled and it cant do 5120x1440 @240hz I used to own a Sapphire 6800XT im sure that could do. So question is how much better would a 7700Xt or 7800XT be compared to the old 6800XT. Im not prepared to go much above £400 though.
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Right now, but how about next year? Or the year after? How about over the lifespan of the GPU? Say 4 years?
Totally not worth it. The 7800XT is essentially a "better" version of it. For a meaningful upgrade from a 6800XT you need a 7900XT,
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Care to share your thoughts on why as I've been toying with the idea of buying one of those even now, what with how disappointing the 7800XT has seemingly turned out.
I was hoping all the rumours would turn out to be wrong and the 7800XT would be close to the 4070 TI / 6950 XT so my thinking was that I'd wait and get that sort of performance but with slightly newer features/power usage but now the 7800 XT seems like it's closer to the 4070 / 6800 XT it seems a bit pointless.
Soldato
Well the 6800XT certainly isn't worth it at more than this. The 6950XT though? weirdly still occupies the space between this and the 7900XT. That leads me to believe AMD over produced the 6950XT and 6700XT and lower more than the 6800XT and that is why the layout seems so patchy right now.