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Any news on 7800 xt?

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Lets face it, even at the MSRP this is not a particularly exciting card anyway. similar performance to the 6800XT which has been available at around £500 for months, same amount of VRAM, same features with the 1 unique to RDNA3 not coming till next year anyway, then a bit better RT and a 37w improvement to TDP. Not exactly groundbreaking stuff here.
 
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Lets face it, even at the MSRP this is not a particularly exciting card anyway. similar performance to the 6800XT which has been available at around £500 for months, same amount of VRAM, same features with the 1 unique to RDNA3 not coming till next year anyway, then a bit better RT and a 37w improvement to TDP. Not exactly groundbreaking stuff here.

How can they not have enough stock at launch day for such a product? Its basically a 200mm2 5NM die,which they had 9 months to stockpile. The MCDs are 37MM2,and are on 6NM. They can't muster enough stock for the first few days of the launch at one retailer in the UK?

What is the point of even releasing the RX7700XT/RX7800XT?
 
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Lets face it, even at the MSRP this is not a particularly exciting card anyway. similar performance to the 6800XT which has been available at around £500 for months, same amount of VRAM, same features with the 1 unique to RDNA3 not coming till next year anyway, then a bit better RT and a 37w improvement to TDP. Not exactly groundbreaking stuff here.

If AMD hadn't had to fire sale it's 6000 series, I expect the 7000 mid range would be priced higher.

Hard to price a similar performing card higher, even Nvidia had to settle for near parity with the 4060Ti
 
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How can they not have enough stock at launch day for such a product? Its basically a 200mm2 5NM die,which they had 9 months to stockpile. The MCDs are 37MM2,and are on 6NM. They can't muster enough stock for the first few days of the launch at one retailer in the UK?

What is the point of even releasing the RX7700XT/RX7800XT?

Who knows, perhaps they shipped them by sea to increase margins and they didn't want to risk early benchmarks. Ship a few by air for launch and volume by sea...
 
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And the fact there seemingly isn't just shows how accurate his info is.
I wonder if anyone wants to start 'tube channel speculating about... the speculators!

Mystic Bingo with roll-over prices if nobody gets anything correct. And major penalties for who just rattle off everything possible and want to later claim they were correct in their somewhere!
If you’re paying £50 over the msrp for these then you are just buying starfield at the full price anyway.
Bundles haven't been great value for a while, although Starfield with a £360 RX 6800 was pretty good I guess. The most valuable bundle was probably that custom AMD ship back in the Hawaii days for that other Star something game (you know, the one which has the biggest budget of any game in history but still isn't finished) as those somehow became collectors items. Probably because people put them someone unsafe like some of the forever lost bitcoins - lost when they were under dollar and mourned when they would have been €50k or whatever!
 
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Perhaps Starfield is a conspiracy to sell CPU's and GPU's. Magic patch in a few months to double performance.... Called DLSS :D

A sad time for pc gaming when we have to rely on upscaling gimmicks to make games playable. This will likely become the norm, barely optimised games booted out the door far too soon needing to use fsr or dlss to make them playable.

Kind of ironic that pc gamers a few years ago were looking down their noses at "console peasants" for upscaling, but here we are....
 
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To be fair it's about being patient and not buying if you don't think it's value. I bided my time and bought an FE 3060Ti, sold it for a decent price and bought a 6950XT for £600, I felt I got a decent buy both times.

What's your 6950XT pulling flat out?
 
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A sad time for pc gaming when we have to rely on upscaling gimmicks to make games playable. This will likely become the norm, barely optimised games booted out the door far too soon needing to use fsr or dlss to make them playable.

Kind of ironic that pc gamers a few years ago were looking down their noses at "console peasants" for upscaling, but here we are....

The "console peasants" have the same upscaling but still only 30FPS so more time to see the artifacts ... who thought 30FPS was a good idea in a game with gun play.

I remember back in the day both AMD (ATI?) and Nvidia getting hammered for 'driver optimisations' that reduced the GPU workload to increase frame rate but also reduced the quality of the rendered image.... now it's not just a feature but a selling point.
 
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The "console peasants" have the same upscaling but still only 30FPS so more time to see the artifacts ... who thought 30FPS was a good idea in a game with gun play.

I remember back in the day both AMD (ATI?) and Nvidia getting hammered for 'driver optimisations' that reduced the GPU workload to increase frame rate but also reduced the quality of the rendered image.... now it's not just a feature but a selling point.

The optimisations could be disabled though, now it's getting to be almost a necessity depending on the game and the level of ray tracing involved
 
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Lets face it, even at the MSRP this is not a particularly exciting card anyway. similar performance to the 6800XT which has been available at around £500 for months, same amount of VRAM, same features with the 1 unique to RDNA3 not coming till next year anyway, then a bit better RT and a 37w improvement to TDP. Not exactly groundbreaking stuff here.

The 4090 is the only GPU that has generated excitement and you can see it in the tone of reviewers voices at the time, everything else wah meh, just another day in the job
 
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A sad time for pc gaming when we have to rely on upscaling gimmicks to make games playable. This will likely become the norm, barely optimised games booted out the door far too soon needing to use fsr or dlss to make them playable.

Kind of ironic that pc gamers a few years ago were looking down their noses at "console peasants" for upscaling, but here we are....
Having people reliant on software for performance is a great way to force obsolescence though as they can pull the plug on these at anytime and move to new methods of upscaling that are only supported on the latest hardware.
 
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Leaked benchmarks.


RX7800XT-VS-RTX4070-RX7700XT-VS-RTX4060TI-16GB-BENCHMARK-RAYTRACING.jpg



RX7800XT-VS-RTX4070-RX7700XT-VS-RTX4060TI-16GB-BENCHMARK.jpg


  • Radeon RX 7800 XT 16GB vs. RTX 4070 12GB
    • RASTER: +6.9%
    • RT: -11.6%
    • AVG: +0.5%
  • Radeon RX 7700 XT 12G vs. RTX 4060 Ti 16GB
    • RASTER: +15.9%
    • RT: -5.4%
    • AVG: +8.5
Buying the 6950XT for 4070 money seems like to have been the right choice instead of waiting for the 7800 XT. Of course, the verdict is still out until proper benchmarks and actual pricing is known. But it's looking good for those of us who took the risk which is kinda sad really that buying 2 year old hardware new is the better option than purchasing the latest and greatest. I miss the old days.
 
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