Anyone just given up on looking for a new GPU?

[FireTwo]

never give up guys!

 

[Ivs]

Jun 2021… The GPU market is still messed up.

But what about June 2022? Hopefully we'll be laughing by then

 

[ASMB]

I’ve given up for now. It’s just the boys have ruined it for everyone. If you look on eBay, there’s over 300 3080s on there, over 300. Not including the 3070 or others, just the bog standard 3080. Yet I can’t buy one from a retailer. It’s not even about meeting demand anymore. They’d need to produce enough cards for scalpers and normal buyers before it’s not worth it for scalpers any,ore

If people stop buying from the scalpers then why would the scalpers hoover up the cards as they have no one to make a profit from? Problem with scalpers = solved

 

[Major774]

There will always be people that have the money to spend on scalper prices, so it's a waiting game until the market is left with gamers who are holding out.

 

[ASMB]

But what about June 2022? Hopefully we'll be laughing by then

Could be a real mess as AMD 7000 might be out around then, imagine people trying to ditch the 3080ti they paid scalpers £2k for to get a Radeon 7900xt, https://youtu.be/dL1VbthX0oA?t=774

 

[chrcoluk]

This would increase the cost of sale, so prices would go up. Retail has spent the last two decades optimising for online sales, if they suddenly have to make that less efficient it will hit customers in the wallet.

True, but it wouldnt be at scalper pricing levels. (theoretically, of course many retailers will still gouge).

 

[chrcoluk]

Anyone fancy a trip to Taiwan lol?

Taiwan scalper free zone? lol

everything is there 3070,3080, 3080ti, 3090, 6700XT and even 2600s.

 

[Major774]

Taiwan scalper free zone? lol

everything is there 3070,3080, 3080ti, 3090, 6700XT and even 2600s.

They have a GPU policy in force.

You must buy a system build with a GPU, with no obvious bottlenecks. So you can't buy a 3090 along with a low end CPU as that will raise red flags. It's a good policy for this current GPU market.

 

[Alister Ross]

Was worried about the psu connection etc, but installation was super smooth from GTX 1070Ti, updated drivers etc, going to try Cyberpunk 2077 first just for the gfx Need to purchase some games with race tracing. The performance seems to be twice as good now compared to my old gfx.

Excellent choice good sir! That will be my game of choice once I get my hands on a new card.

 

[Ivs]

Could be a real mess as AMD 7000 might be out around then, imagine people trying to ditch the 3080ti they paid scalpers £2k for to get a Radeon 7900xt, https://youtu.be/dL1VbthX0oA?t=774

I think, and hope, the majority of people paying 2000 for an 80ti are just miners and theyll just be using them to mine when it comes out. Otherwise, tough ****. Shouldnt have payed that much then.

But youre right, it could be quite a situation, but I think when stock is high enough no one is going to actually pay anywhere near 2 grand for a used 80ti. And the seller will have to cut their loses and sell for rrp or even lower, taking the hit. So new buyers should be fine

 

[Ivs]

They have a GPU policy in force.

You must buy a system build with a GPU, with no obvious bottlenecks. So you can't buy a 3090 along with a low end CPU as that will raise red flags. It's a good policy for this current GPU market.

What is your source on this please?

Is it with this specific shop or all of Taiwan?

 

[Major774]

What is your source on this please?

Is it with this specific shop or all of Taiwan?

Marco, the guy taking the video who lives in Taiwan.

I am not 100% sure on the specifics.

 

[AllanDC]

At the moment I still run 2 x 780GTX in SLI and it doesn't meet minimum spec on the new releases, Not to mention that SLI is dead. I'll just be console gaming until the whole situation sorts itself out.
So yeah I've given in for the time being.

 

[Nirurin]

That being the case then you would have to be desperate to buy from a scalper. Interesting though I would have expected some kind of legal requirement that warrantee is transferred. Otherwise who would ever buy a car second hand from a private seller - other than an old banger.

While -in theory- a company can say that the warranty is non-transferable, in practise it is. Otherwise... what would happen if you bought someone a GPU for christmas?

Your mileage may vary on this a bit, depending on country, but in the UK I've never had a problem with it. Besides, if the card turns up from eBay and it's faulty within the first couple weeks, you can immediately return it for a full refund. So the warranty only matters if it develops a fault over time, which is pretty rare.

 

[PatBerry]

While -in theory- a company can say that the warranty is non-transferable, in practise it is. Otherwise... what would happen if you bought someone a GPU for christmas?

Your mileage may vary on this a bit, depending on country, but in the UK I've never had a problem with it. Besides, if the card turns up from eBay and it's faulty within the first couple weeks, you can immediately return it for a full refund. So the warranty only matters if it develops a fault over time, which is pretty rare.

First few weeks I see your point. But GPUs run hot and can die months after being purchased. For that reason I would not want to hand over my cash on something with no guarantee past the first month.

 

[Nirurin]

First few weeks I see your point. But GPUs run hot and can die months after being purchased. For that reason I would not want to hand over my cash on something with no guarantee past the first month.

If it dies after a few months, then you still have the warranty. As long as the GPU is less than a year old. (Is it 1 year on gpus? I think I've seen it be 3 years sometimes, but not sure what it is on the current generation).

Worst case, get the original purchase receipt when you buy something (I always do). Though I've never actually been asked for it on the few occasions I've needed to use a warranty. Registering using the warranty card has always been sufficient (but I may have been lucky).

But then I also don't run my equipment hot, and I've never had a GPU die due to heat or stress. If you're overclocking/overloading your GPU 24/7 then... maybe don't do that. I guess miners would go for more of a warranty guarantee. Though I've mined on my GPU in the past, and it never gets hotter than 60C, so I dunno. Though I know the 3090 (not sure on the 3080) has some temp issues with the ram chips, but as far as I'm aware there's no information on how much it actually effects longevity.

It's all a game of balancing risk. If two things were the same price, I'd get the one with the least potential hassle. But we are talking about saving 20% of the cost, while still having the ability to return faulty goods and (probably) having a full warranty in the extremely rare case that something goes wrong.

If any companies were actually selling 3090s for anything close to MSRP, then this wouldn't be an argument. But right now its cheaper to go on ebay than it is to buy it from a retailer.

 

[martynr]

They have a GPU policy in force.

You must buy a system build with a GPU, with no obvious bottlenecks. So you can't buy a 3090 along with a low end CPU as that will raise red flags. It's a good policy for this current GPU market.

And here I was hoping to get Athlon with a 3080ti.

p.s.: lol

 

[Ivs]

Marco, the guy taking the video who lives in Taiwan.

I am not 100% sure on the specifics.

Thanks.

That shop looks like a gamer's paradise right now.

 

[PatBerry]

If it dies after a few months, then you still have the warranty. As long as the GPU is less than a year old. (Is it 1 year on gpus? I think I've seen it be 3 years sometimes, but not sure what it is on the current generation).

Worst case, get the original purchase receipt when you buy something (I always do). Though I've never actually been asked for it on the few occasions I've needed to use a warranty. Registering using the warranty card has always been sufficient (but I may have been lucky).

But then I also don't run my equipment hot, and I've never had a GPU die due to heat or stress. If you're overclocking/overloading your GPU 24/7 then... maybe don't do that. I guess miners would go for more of a warranty guarantee. Though I've mined on my GPU in the past, and it never gets hotter than 60C, so I dunno. Though I know the 3090 (not sure on the 3080) has some temp issues with the ram chips, but as far as I'm aware there's no information on how much it actually effects longevity.

It's all a game of balancing risk. If two things were the same price, I'd get the one with the least potential hassle. But we are talking about saving 20% of the cost, while still having the ability to return faulty goods and (probably) having a full warranty in the extremely rare case that something goes wrong.

If any companies were actually selling 3090s for anything close to MSRP, then this wouldn't be an argument. But right now its cheaper to go on ebay than it is to buy it from a retailer.

That is the crux of the problem. And while scalpers keep buying up retailers stock over gamers buying then people feel forced into using well known auction sites.

 

[Nirurin]

While I would like the 24gb of ram for rendering projects, I think at this point if I had the ability I would pick up an MSRP 3070 instead, as it would still be a significant improvement and it would get me through the next year or so. May look on ebay for them, but then it's about £1000. not ideal.