Are you doing anything with Hue?

ping8781 · 28 Nov 2018 at 14:23

Nikumba said:
That looks interesting

Though looking at the install doc doenst show anything about existing cabling, so would you instsall this along side your switch? If so how is this different to a holder for the dimmer?

They work the same as the Hue Tap so there is no wiring, the press of the button generates the charge to send the signal to turn light on/off

RoyMi6 · 28 Nov 2018 at 14:26

Nikumba said:
That looks interesting

Though looking at the install doc doenst show anything about existing cabling, so would you instsall this along side your switch? If so how is this different to a holder for the dimmer?

Yeah, it's basically EXACTLY the same thing that hue has already. Wireless switches.

The main difference here (that MAYBE makes them worthwhile) is that they're piezoelectric (so pressing them generates the power - which I thin the hue tap does already) but more importantly they look like they will fit in place of an existing switch.

So you can take off your existing switch, hardwire it "on" then put this wireless switch in place.

But the comments are right, they don't need something so fancy, they just need a bloody hard wired switch that takes power from the mains and turns off the hue bulbs the same way as the tap.

Would make it cheaper :rolleyes:

matt100 · 28 Nov 2018 at 14:36

I must be missing something

I've always had it in my head that the endgame of hue was removing the need for switches completely

HungryHippos · 28 Nov 2018 at 14:46

A while back I wrote a web based portal thing for the Hue hub over at this page: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/any-demand-for-a-hue-based-web-application.18813285/

Interested to see what more people think of it, or stuff I can do to improve it?

You need to enter your hue hub IP at the top of the page, and visit http://huetest.azurewebsites.net/genapi.html

Hit the Get API key button, then hit the physical button on your hub. It should save the data into a local cookie nothing is stored server side.

jpaul · 28 Nov 2018 at 15:35

matt100 said:
Just out of curiosity, how come CRI is such a big deal to you? I just had to google it to even figure out what it is!

I want the living room lights and kitchen to look as natural as possible (4K with high cri looks great), I have used metal halide in the living room which is excellent rendering & 70w=>6000 lumens and am now using HyperIkon led's, but after reading below article (posted earlier) about Hue decided not to engage, and did not yet try lifx

I have seen a teardown of a LIFX bulb and it uses a RGBW emitter approach. The Philips Hue uses a completely different combination of emitters: amber, phosphor-converted lime, and blue.
The RGBW approach used in the LIFX bulb gives it an average CRI of 88-89, peaking at over 92 between 3100-3400K, according to a comment from a representative of the company which was posted on Amazon.
The specs for the Philips Hue bulb says it has a CRI above 80 between 2000-4000K, and it has a CRI of 91 at 2700K. This might not sound as good in terms of CRI, but the choice of emitters does allow the light to have better color rendering when the bulb is strongly color-tinted (which is the whole reason people buy a color tunable bulb in the first place). That LIFX bulb is going to make the surroundings in your room look pretty monochromatic if it is set to a yellowish-green lime color, or is set to a heavy pink rose tint. Most people do not stop to think about what the color rendering is going to be like in off-white color mode.

Salty22 · 28 Nov 2018 at 16:39

One of the 6 gu10s in the kitchen has started to play up so i'm tempted to replace them all with Hue.
Dont think im going to go with the full colour ones, but dont know whether to just get the cheaper white ones or the white ambiance.

HungryHippos · 28 Nov 2018 at 16:45

I'd recommend white ambiance because you can tune the colour temp better.

matt100 · 28 Nov 2018 at 17:10

jpaul said:
I want the living room lights and kitchen to look as natural as possible (4K with high cri looks great), I have used metal halide in the living room which is excellent rendering & 70w=>6000 lumens and am now using HyperIkon led's, but after reading below article (posted earlier) about Hue decided not to engage, and did not yet try lifx

I hope you don't mind me saying that's quite an edge case

(I confess I have about £70 of sensors controlling whether the light in the cupboard under the stairs is on or off.. edge case is not a criticism)

Schizo · 28 Nov 2018 at 17:36

V_R said:
Ah how are they? I've been tempted by them myself. Any pics?

They are really really good,they are pretty bright on the highest setting,I got them because I wanted the led strips for the TV but didn't really want to stick them to the TV and then make them infectivity useless to stick anywhere else.
I could take some pictures but the photo wouldn't do them any justice.

deuse · 29 Nov 2018 at 08:26

Semple said:
Did you order these in the end Matt?

I love them.
I've got some better 5050 led lights coming.

All I've got to do now is to find out how to sync the films with the lights. Phillips dropped the ball on this.
I am now using Innr colour bulbs. Cheaper and better\brighter.

233 · 29 Nov 2018 at 08:35

deuse said:
I love them.
I've got some better 5050 led lights coming.

All I've got to do now is to find out how to sync the films with the lights. Phillips dropped the ball on this.
I am now using Innr colour bulbs. Cheaper and better\brighter.

we have an ambilight tv, it does it all from the tv menu, you can have the whole house synced with your movie if you want

deuse · 29 Nov 2018 at 09:04

233 said:
we have an ambilight tv, it does it all from the tv menu, you can have the whole house synced with your movie if you want

That would be nice.

It's a pity there is no android TV app that can do it(I've tried them all)
I'm thinking of a Raspie 3+ and the pie camera using android. More bloody money

233 · 29 Nov 2018 at 10:26

good excuse for a new tv, i know a lot of the tv enthusiasts dont rate philips sets but love my uhd 55k (got it as a bargain from the rainforest for £440

Semple · 29 Nov 2018 at 21:56

deuse said:
I love them.
I've got some better 5050 led lights coming.

All I've got to do now is to find out how to sync the films with the lights. Phillips dropped the ball on this.
I am now using Innr colour bulbs. Cheaper and better\brighter.

I'm still looking at the gledopto adapters, just annoying that there aren't any UK stockists.

deuse · 30 Nov 2018 at 07:05

Semple said:
I'm still looking at the gledopto adapters, just annoying that there aren't any UK stockists.

There are.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_s...refix=Zigbee+,lighting,330&crid=1UBAZR6R2PYNL

But which one is good I have no idea.

Semple · 30 Nov 2018 at 08:41

deuse said:
There are.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_7?url=search-alias=lighting&field-keywords=zigbee+controller&sprefix=Zigbee+,lighting,330&crid=1UBAZR6R2PYNL

But which one is good I have no idea.

Most of those all ship from China. I've not looked at the £40+ ones though.

deuse · 30 Nov 2018 at 10:37

Semple said:
Most of those all ship from China. I've not looked at the £40+ ones though.

I use this guy for strip leds and controller\power supply https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ZigBee-RGB-CCT-RGBW-Controller-5050-SMD-LED-Strip-Power-Supply-For-Echo-Plus/183422567750?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&var=690732196355&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

But you must have a Hue Bridge 2 to use a Zigbee controller.
This is where google missed out by not having zigbee on the Home hub.

Smartthings hub picks up zigbee.(don't get the smartthings hub 3)

Simon · 2 Dec 2018 at 20:32

Anyone know a decent app that can set a bulb to cycle between green and red?

Street · 3 Dec 2018 at 13:56

Simon said:
Anyone know a decent app that can set a bulb to cycle between green and red?

Weird, my missus asked me exactly the same thing yesterday. Is there something I should know?!

ping8781 · 3 Dec 2018 at 14:00

pretty sure hue disco can do this