Assange to go!

[TW]Fox · 19 Aug 2012 at 14:42

PsychoPigeon said:
Why is the UK plc going after Assange?

Because we are legally obliged to :confused:

Robbo · 19 Aug 2012 at 14:43

dbmzk1 said:
It would have MUCH wider repercussions other than upsetting Ecuador. It would destroy our international status with most/all countries.

The threats to enter were just that, threats, designed to try and scare them to kick him out. They called our bluff. As much as I believe we should be able too get him out as they are harbouring a suspected rapist, we're not going in any time soon and rightly so.

It's REALLY frustrating, but that's just the way it is.

[TW]Fox;22594266 said:
Don't you get it? I'm not talking about Ecuador. Once you set a precedent that your country can and will find ways around the Vienna Convention if it deems it neccesary, then it becomes about far more than just one country.

Fair enough, what an incredibly frustrating situation though.

The morons 'cheering' for him outside of the embassy must be insane.

Danthus · 19 Aug 2012 at 14:43

oli collett said:
I find it somewhat ironic that supporters of Assange aren't too bothered about getting to the bottom of the truth when it comes to allegations made against him!

At one point weren't all the charges dropped.?

OhEsEcks · 19 Aug 2012 at 14:44

Robbo said:
The morons 'cheering' for him outside of the embassy must be insane.

No more insane than those on the other side of the fence calling for his head.

Glaucus · 19 Aug 2012 at 14:44

Jokester said:
Guy is a self deluded, arrogant, **** then?

We've known that for years. Hes scum and I wise we would deport it to America.
He is some of the wort society has to offer.
He's not done out of any good, he knw his actions would lead to deaths and aggression. Yet he did it anyway. Total scum.

dbmzk1 said:
It would have MUCH wider repercussions other than upsetting Ecuador. It would destroy our international status with most/all countries.

The threats to enter were just that, threats, designed to try and scare them to kick him out. They called our bluff. As much as I believe we should be able too get him out as they are harbouring a suspected rapist, we're not going in any time soon and rightly so.

It's REALLY frustrating, but that's just the way it is.

I agree with this, it was nothing more than a) a scare tactic, b) showing we are trying to uphold the laws we are bound to.

Robbo · 19 Aug 2012 at 14:44

OhEsEcks said:
No more insane than those on the other side of the fence calling for his head.

Who is calling for his head, if there are rape charges against him he should stand trial for them, surely? :confused:

Or should he get a free pass?

Danthus · 19 Aug 2012 at 14:47

Robbo said:
Who is calling for his head, if there are rape charges against him he should stand trial for them, surely?

Or should he get a free pass?

Correct me if i am wrong but the rape charge was dropped and only after the Wikileaks furore was he charged again?

OhEsEcks · 19 Aug 2012 at 14:49

Robbo said:
Who is calling for his head, if there are rape charges against him he should stand trial for them, surely?

Or should he get a free pass?

There are no official charges. They were dropped. Which has been pointed out throughout this thread. But apparently people on the side that want his head, can't get that into their own head.

dbmzk1 · 19 Aug 2012 at 14:51

http://www.dermandar.com/p/cKGwZL

There's got to be 30+ police officers there. I hope we make Ecuador pay for it.

Robbo · 19 Aug 2012 at 14:53

OldCoals said:
Correct me if i am wrong but the rape charge was dropped and only after the Wikileaks furore was he charged again?

I'm unsure.

OhEsEcks said:
There are no official charges. They were dropped. Which has been pointed out throughout this thread. But apparently people on the side that want his head, can't get that into their own head.

If there are no charges, why doesn't he leave...

Why would Sweden be trying to stitch him up?

dbmzk1 · 19 Aug 2012 at 14:54

OhEsEcks said:
There are no official charges. They were dropped. Which has been pointed out throughout this thread. But apparently people on the side that want his head, can't get that into their own head.

There are no charges because they can't charge him until he's there. There is still a warrant for his arrest, hence why we want to arrest him and send him there.

Danthus · 19 Aug 2012 at 14:55

Why on earth did this man end up in possession of all that material?

Castiel · 19 Aug 2012 at 14:55

I got a little confused when he was speaking about falling off the precipice in their pursuit of journalists and the threat to Freedom of Expression, prosecuting journalists, oppression of citizens and so on.....was he speaking about Ecuador, because it seems strange if he was only refering to the United States given Ecuador's arrest and imprisonment of journalists who are critical of the Ecuadorian President etc.....

Assange is full of **** tbh.

Glaucus · 19 Aug 2012 at 14:57

OhEsEcks said:
There are no official charges. They were dropped. Which has been pointed out throughout this thread. But apparently people on the side that want his head, can't get that into their own head.

You mean there's no charges as he hasn't been questionioned yet.
The legal systems are reasonably different. They want to question him on a statutory charge, so they do not need the victims cooperation.

But his wiki leaks is a far bigger crime and I wish America would just issue an arrest/extradition papers.

Freedom of speech, is not freedom from responsability.
Lots of speech can and does get you gpbreaking laws. You are not free to do anything you want for a good reason. He's nothing but scum and deluded. He can't even see how much of a scum he is.

OhEsEcks · 19 Aug 2012 at 14:57

Robbo said:
If there are no charges, why doesn't he leave...

Leave where? The embassy? To be snatched by the British police, extradited to Sweden and held until the American's have compiled their kangaroo court evidence where they'll sentence him to life inside some of the most brutal prisons in the world, for daring to expose the criminal behaviour of the US military in the middle east?

Other than that I don't really know.

Robbo said:
Why would Sweden be trying to stitch him up?

You should know by now that when America says jump most countries ask how high. Just look at the raid they had the NZ special forces mount to arrest Kim Dotcom.

Robbo · 19 Aug 2012 at 14:59

OhEsEcks said:
Leave where? The embassy? To be snatched by the British police, extradited to Sweden and held until the American's have compiled their kangaroo court evidence where they'll sentence him to life inside some of the most brutal prisons in the world, for daring to expose the criminal behaviour of the US military in the middle east?

Uh oh, there's that 'tin foil hat' agenda...

RomanNose · 19 Aug 2012 at 15:00

I think it's pretty important for whistle-blowing to be allowed, wikileaks have gone about it the wrong way though by releasing pretty much everything even if there is nothing dodgy going on.

OhEsEcks · 19 Aug 2012 at 15:00

Robbo said:
Uh oh, there's that 'tin foil hat' agenda...

It could be worse, I could fall into the ignorant fool brigade who think we should just storm into other nations embassys and sort everything out that way.

Racerdude · 19 Aug 2012 at 15:01

If Britain decides to attack Ecuador they'll feel the wrath of the Latin Americas

Good on them standing up to these Imperialist bullies.

Danthus · 19 Aug 2012 at 15:02

RomanNose said:
I think it's pretty important for whistle-blowing to be allowed, wikileaks have gone about it the wrong way though by releasing pretty much everything even if there is nothing dodgy going on.

Do you think they have released everything, if the America felt embarrassed before wait until Assagne is extradited.