It's a one-step Caesar cipher - jutopusbqfjgzpvtbztvsqsjtf
Assange to go!
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It's a one-step Caesar cipher - jutopusbqfjgzpvtbztvsqsjtf
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Can we just pause and take a step back for a second:
Have the Americans explicitly said they want him extradited to the USA?
If they have, on what grounds/charges?
To me it seems like someone made something up along the lines of "Assange will be extradited to the USA" and it seems to have gone haywire from there.
Have the Americans explicitly said they want him extradited to the USA?
If they have, on what grounds/charges?
To me it seems like someone made something up along the lines of "Assange will be extradited to the USA" and it seems to have gone haywire from there.
What evidence is there he is a sexual predator?
Sexual predator lol. Do you even know anything about this case?
Nothing certain, only emails and senators saying they want him. From a leaked email it says they have an indictment against him but who knows if it's true.
Well we know they are currently investigating Wikileaks, several high level politicians in the US have called for his death/imprisonment. Furthermore, they have kept Bradley Manning in 'torture' conditions for over two years without trial. When asked for assurances that they will not seek his extradition to the US they have repeatedly failed to do so.
It is clear Assange would happily go to Sweden if he had assurances from the Swedish/US government that they would not seek his extradition to the US. The Swedish government have not given those guarantees (and this was a crucial factor in Ecuador's decision to grant him asylum).
Yes thanks. ignoring the irrational conspiracy theories, the facts are pretty straight forward. Assange is wanted for questioning on several sexual assault charges, and refuses to answer them. There is absolutely no evidence to support the usa paranoia when compared with reality, so relying on this must be the result of paranoid delusion an assange's part, or alternatively he is running from justice because he knows he is guilty.
we shouldn't entertain his paranoid fantasies as fact, he should face the liberal justice system in Sweden rather than running off to an oppressive dictatorship.
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Public support seems to be wavering for him already. Oh dear, imagine the only place you in the world you were welcome was Ecuador.
ASSANGE Speech @ the embassy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xod1PqLvaE4&feature=g-u-u
How can any country give assurances about future activity without knowing the context of the potential request and what evidence supports it?
is the rule of law that unimportant where darling of the left are involved?
OK, lets focus on his alleged crime.
Why were the charges originally dropped ans what evidence is there that he committed the alleged offence?
Except that he has already been questioned in Sweden for these accusations, he has already given a statement to police in Sweden, and the prosecutor then gave him permission to leave the country. He has also offered many times to be questioned again in the uk, either via video link or in person. Given that Sweden have done this before (for a murderer), it should not be a big deal for them to do so here.
It is not irrational to assume that the US want to get him - they have cracked down very harshly on whistle-blowers in their own country, have already carried out an illegal financial attack on Wikileaks and have repeatedly failed to state that they would not seek his extradition.
Given the appalling treatment of Bradley Manning, it is perfectly logical that Assange will worry they will do the same to him if they ever get him to US soil.
What if the 'rapee' gave consent?
double jeopardy isnt really relevant, charges get dropped and brought back regularly in the UK as well, and the evidence is the same as most sexual crimes, the statements of those involved.
Why do you think the alleged crime shouldn't be investigated?
Did I miss the bit where all the evidence in a proposed prosecution should be shared with random people on the internet prior to any trial that may take place?
I haven't said it shouldn't be investigated,
You said he is a sexual predator, I asked you for evidence, evidence being that very thing that so so consistently demand and require.
Stop moving the goalposts.
Well I think it is hard for a someone to give consent when they are asleep.
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Yer I'd be gutted ...
A beach maybe you should look at the slums as it is pretty poverty ridden.