** ATi X1k/HD 3k series overclocking guide - ATi Tray Tools and ATi Tool + FAQ **

[PucK]

I gave up trying to get ATITool working, using Rivatuner now and seems to work really well. Managed to get my X1900 clocked at 702 / 801 so far.

But you cant up the voltage on the card using rivatuner... well if you can i cant see it

 

[Kyo]

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Sliders set to perfromace, all AA and AF off? Have you got a 2nd screen you can plug in and watch the clocks on the 2nd screen?

On the ATi Tool not working front, I have no idea mate, I've never seen that before

conc - Sliders your talking about is in CCC or is that in ATi Tool?

Might give it another bash as i made a mistake of loading 3d mode on default the last time which could have caused the crash. As well as i never realised that you had to put 3d detection within ATI tools. Sorry to be a noob

One other thing i should make sure CCC is not loaded if we are using ati tool right or can you use both. Didn't see where i could enable aa etc like in ccc if i wasn't using it.

 

[Jimi]

I think you can only use one at a time. If you right click the ATITool icon in the taskbar, you can change the AA and AF from there. Changing the AF doesn't seem to do anything for me though, haven't tried changing the AA settings.

 

[oweneades]

Hmmm well I am confused. After a lot of tinkering and numerous freezes I seem to have hit a brick wall.

I have got the card to 690/810 and well thats it.

Now here is where I get confused individually I can get the core and the memory up much higher. Yet together I can't. I must be missing something.

What is the VDDCI?! I note in the first page and on other sites it is reccomended to be between 1.55 and 1.58volts?! Surely this is too high as mine is 1.486v at the moment.

This is the main bit that is confusing me. If someone wouldn't mind answering this I would be very gratefull as I would love to be pushing much higher than I am and I know the card can do it.

 

[FreeStream]

Hmmm well I am confused. After a lot of tinkering and numerous freezes I seem to have hit a brick wall.

I have got the card to 690/810 and well thats it.

Now here is where I get confused individually I can get the core and the memory up much higher. Yet together I can't. I must be missing something.

What is the VDDCI?! I note in the first page and on other sites it is reccomended to be between 1.55 and 1.58volts?! Surely this is too high as mine is 1.486v at the moment.

This is the main bit that is confusing me. If someone wouldn't mind answering this I would be very gratefull as I would love to be pushing much higher than I am and I know the card can do it.

Well many forums I have seen said it improves mem clocking ability, it certainly did for me adding 30+mhz onto the mem.

Having it at 1.58 is fine according to everythings i've seen.

Keep the temps in check and have 2D/3D profiles and I see now reason why it would break

YOu don't need to shove it up to max now anyway. Just keep raising it until it doesn't do anything more

 

[oweneades]

Well many forums I have seen said it improves mem clocking ability, it certainly did for me adding 30+mhz onto the mem.

Having it at 1.58 is fine according to everythings i've seen.

Keep the temps in check and have 2D/3D profiles and I see now reason why it would break

YOu don't need to shove it up to max now anyway. Just keep raising it until it doesn't do anything more

Cheers mate. I was just getting so confused with all the options. It is wierd how some cards react to the voltage controls so differently to others (some require upping others require lowering).

I will have a tinker later.

I do think however although my psu it up to the job of running the card fine @ stock I think overclocked is pushing it.

Time will tell.

 

[FrankJH]

To be honest I cant get CCC or ATI tool to enable clocking at all.

I tried CCC 6.7's on their own and overdrive wouldnt work

I then tried using ATI Tool with CCC still installed and that didnt work.

At this point I uninstalled everything and just installed the 6.7 drivers alone and ATI tool to do the functionality and it was still disabled.

I am getting around 9000k on 3dmark06 which for a standard clocked Xfire combo seems reasonable but I know I could easily break 10k if I could overclock

What am i missing - all ati services are stopped automatically on bootup.

 

[fan_83]

ok i manage to oc it properly, but can i know how do yo usave the settings properly so that it would initialise when you go 3d?

i mean you save the profile in ati tool.. but do you sue the setting that it starts when windows do or do you need to use the 3d-detection and set it to load profile when 3d application is used..

is there anyway to use the ovreclock settings without having to have ati tool in *** taskbar at all.. i mean you save it into your windows settings like what rivatuner do with nvidia so you don;t need to have extra prograns running in order to have overclocked settings

 

[JackRegan]

Thanks very much for posting this, I took delivery of a X1900XTX today and like most people thought I had a dud when I saw ATI tool reporting the clocks at 500/600.

3D05 scored a tad over 9500, so I was a little confused as I'd expected around the 10k mark, which I would have been reached when changing the setting to performance etc....

Searched the forum and found this thread, followed it to the T and scored a tad over 11500.

Will fit it up to my watercooling tomorrow and see how high the temps are and see how much see has in her.

Cheers

Jack

 

[BarryFell]

I'm having trouble with getting ATI Tool to actually do what i'm setting it to do.

I have 3 profiles set up, one for 2D, one at stock 3D and one overclocked 3D. I've set ATI tool up so it should start up on start up of windows and load the 2D profile. I've also set it so it should load the 3D stock profile on detection of a 3D app, which is fine, but my problem is it keeps loading the 3D stock profile from startup. It's like the start up settings just don't work.

Any ideas?

 

[squiffy]

Meh to these useless ATI Tray tools, they don't work, and don't change whenever in 3D mode.

Why can't a overclocking feature be included with the Omega drivers? 2D and for 3D modes? ATI CCC is far better apart from slow down upon boot.

 

[garethrobinson1]

Thanks for posting the guide Conc

I've managed to overclock my HIS X1900XT to XTX speeds (650/775) using ATI Tool. I disabled the two services (ATI Poller and ATI Smart as was mentioned in the guide). I ran 3DMark05 and achieved a score of 11,600 using these clocks - I take it this is a decent score for XTX stock clocks (650/775) ?

I also tried overclocking in CCC to see what results I would get using that (disabled ATI Tool too and renabled to two services & rebooted) and got a score of just 10,300 with the clocks set to 650/775 in CCC. Shouldn't I get a similar score to that of when I use ATI Tool (11,600) ?

Thanks for any help in advance

 

[FreeStream]

Thanks for posting the guide Conc

I've managed to overclock my HIS X1900XT to XTX speeds (650/775) using ATI Tool. I disabled the two services (ATI Poller and ATI Smart as was mentioned in the guide). I ran 3DMark05 and achieved a score of 11,600 using these clocks - I take it this is a decent score for XTX stock clocks (650/775) ?

I also tried overclocking in CCC to see what results I would get using that (disabled ATI Tool too and renabled to two services & rebooted) and got a score of just 10,300 with the clocks set to 650/775 in CCC. Shouldn't I get a similar score to that of when I use ATI Tool (11,600) ?

Thanks for any help in advance

CCC loosens mem timings, ATi Tool does not.

11.5k is an perfect score at Xt-X clock speeds.

Now, give it some beans and overclock



Edit:

I'm having trouble with getting ATI Tool to actually do what i'm setting it to do.

I have 3 profiles set up, one for 2D, one at stock 3D and one overclocked 3D. I've set ATI tool up so it should start up on start up of windows and load the 2D profile. I've also set it so it should load the 3D stock profile on detection of a 3D app, which is fine, but my problem is it keeps loading the 3D stock profile from startup. It's like the start up settings just don't work.

Any ideas?

Hmm, either its not 2D that its loading or the 2D clocks are 3D clocks.

Load each profile in turn making sure voltages, fan speeds and clocks are correct. Then change statup to 3D, save, then back to 2D then save then restart.



Edit 2:

Meh to these useless ATI Tray tools, they don't work, and don't change whenever in 3D mode.

Why can't a overclocking feature be included with the Omega drivers? 2D and for 3D modes? ATI CCC is far better apart from slow down upon boot.

When done right ATi Tool works perfectly. W1zzard (Ati Tools creator) is updating the program now to use the ATi 3D changes but make it not loosen mem timings.

ATi Tool > *

 

[garethrobinson1]

Cor blimey Conc that was quick

Thanks for the reply mate.

Don't really understand why people use CCC if it loosens memory timings Obviously you would need to raise the clocks significantly higher in CCC to achieve the same performance with lower clocks in ATI Tool.... each to their own I guess

Also, I don't have a dual screen so cannot use another screen to check the 3D Detection has worked and '3D Stock' profile (which is at XTX speeds) has been activated, so instead I use the 'Play Sound' option in 3D Detection - have you used this before? The sound plays when playing BF2, meaning 3D Detection worked, but no sound with Tomb Raider Legend So i have to force the 3D Stock profile it in that. Bit of a pain in the backside if I have to do that all the time.

 

[FreeStream]

Cor blimey Conc that was quick

Thanks for the reply mate.

Don't really understand why people use CCC if it loosens memory timings Obviously you would need to raise the clocks significantly higher in CCC to achieve the same performance with lower clocks in ATI Tool.... each to their own I guess

Also, I don't have a dual screen so cannot use another screen to check the 3D Detection has worked and '3D Stock' profile (which is at XTX speeds) has been activated, so instead I use the 'Play Sound' option in 3D Detection - have you used this before? The sound plays when playing BF2, meaning 3D Detection worked, but no sound with Tomb Raider Legend. So i have to force the 3D Stock profile it in that. Bit of a pain in the backside if I have to do that all the time.

Aye, some games ATi Tool doesn't pick up. Therefore you can force it in the 3D dection panel at the bottom IIRC (I haven't got a PC to check atm ) Doing all this from memory






Im going to be updating this guide later people, any additions you would like to see? Ill expand this to X1800/X1900/X1950 aswell as they all follow the same kind of system.

CR.

 

[FreeStream]

Right, updated. I think thats everything.


Could a passing mod edit the title to the one I have set please and then sitcky it?

Thanks

 

[andyr]

Hi i got mine running at 690/792 using ccc and the latest cats and no volt mod i have noticed that if i set the mem to 800 it reverts back to 792 and this has only been happening on the later drivers

 

[Kezmo]

Bored yesterday so decided to see what clocks i could get on my His X1900xt.
Card runs 100% stable @ 720/840 with nice temps, but any higher and the card craps out...black screen with 3 pairs of white lines running down it never seen this before or vpu kicks in.
clocked using Rivatuner, so easy, no need to disable any services or what not, just select ** clocks and it detects when ** in 3d + works in BF2

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2198972

 

[FrankJH]

Don't really understand why people use CCC if it loosens memory timings Obviously you would need to raise the clocks significantly higher in CCC to achieve the same performance with lower clocks in ATI Tool.... each to their own I guess

Crossfire isnt supported in ATI Tool which is why some of us require CCC

 

[FreeStream]

Crossfire isnt supported in ATI Tool which is why some of us require CCC

It is I think. You have to select the card your working on from the IDs in the settings page.