Australian GP 2009 - Race 1/17 (NOT in HD BTW)

LeJimster · 29 Mar 2009 at 22:00

I remember seeing EJ on a show about giving kids an opportunity to race instead of becoming scumbags. He was the perfect person for that kind of show. But I really feel he's not suited to the job he's doing right now.

And did anyone else notice the constant praising of Bernie Ecclestone? Made me feel sick to my stomache :S.

steve45 · 29 Mar 2009 at 22:35

I dont mind Eddie at all, but that leggard guy is more annoying than i ever found JA to be, he makes my teeth grate everytime he opens his mouth, did anybody else notice the amount of times martin had to grudgingly correct him over this weekend?

but all in all that was a really nice start to the season, well done to brawn they deserved the win, and mighty impressed with lewis, he provided some good entertainment with his overtaking, 18th up to 4th(3rd after the race), certainly more overtaking than last year in this race but that might have been due to some teams/drivers being out of place, we'll soon see come next race, but either way it was nice to see some good moves, and some not so good moves as well

now i wonder if they can make Malaysia as exciting as this race was, i wonder if there will be more overtaking, should be interesting either way.

LeJimster · 29 Mar 2009 at 22:44

I thought Lewis Did pretty well, with some nice overtaking early on. But the amount of people crashing/spinning off was the main reason he got into 3rd. Without the Safety car events I bet he wouldn't have even got into the points today.

Owenb · 29 Mar 2009 at 22:46

steve45 said:
I dont mind Eddie at all, but that leggard guy is more annoying than i ever found JA to be, he makes my teeth grate everytime he opens his mouth, did anybody else notice the amount of times martin had to grudgingly correct him over this weekend?

but all in all that was a really nice start to the season, well done to brawn they deserved the win, and mighty impressed with lewis, he provided some good entertainment with his overtaking, 18th up to 4th(3rd after the race), certainly more overtaking than last year in this race but that might have been due to some teams/drivers being out of place, we'll soon see come next race, but either way it was nice to see some good moves, and some not so good moves as well

now i wonder if they can make Malaysia as exciting as this race was, i wonder if there will be more overtaking, should be interesting either way.

Indeed, Leggard was pretty poor.

Sepang could be a wash out. It is moved to late afternoon/early evening so there could well be some very heavy thundershowers as they are common at that time of day.

vcl_X1 · 29 Mar 2009 at 22:47

jbstans said:
I think it'd be really interesting if they compiled a table of average lap times.

Fastest lap times and ranking them means very little, they are generally set with low fuel and thus light cars, LH may have only been 14th fastest or so but as you say the average over the race is a better indicator of race pace and keeping out of trouble.

Lewis started light, on super softs and has kers so made up a load of places early on, then kept plugging away at those in front, kept his head, went for every opportunity as it occurred and ultimately lucked out with 3rd, he's learned the lesson that you only need to lose 1 point to lose the championship so bag all the points you can, when you can.

Type_R · 29 Mar 2009 at 22:53

Bennah said:
I know, they are ganging up on me and Type R

Totally

To be fair Kimi did let the side down today, big time!

Mr Jack · 29 Mar 2009 at 23:05

LeJimster said:
I thought Lewis Did pretty well, with some nice overtaking early on. But the amount of people crashing/spinning off was the main reason he got into 3rd. Without the Safety car events I bet he wouldn't have even got into the points today.

In any race, you can only take advantage of the opportunities that are there. For Lewis to achieve what he did, given the car he was in, was a remarkable performance. After all, the other drivers who started in front of him all got the same benefits from the incidents. Alonso, for example, started 8 places ahead of Lewis, had a faster car, had as many cars in front of him fall off the track and didn't benefit any more or less from the Safety car, but Lewis still finished two up from him.

Mr Jack · 29 Mar 2009 at 23:06

Type_R said:
To be fair Kimi did let the side down today, big time!

Is there any word on what happened to Kimi? It seemed a really odd accident? Was it just a moment of muppet or was there a technical problem?

I thought he did remarkably well not to spread it across the track after that spin.

Mr Jack · 29 Mar 2009 at 23:08

LeJimster said:
Vettel is not weak. He's just not an arrogant %£"! like Michael Schumacher was. He's humble and I really hope he becomes world champion one day.

Yeah. Nothing weak in admitting your mistakes. In fact, I'd go as far as to say it's a good thing - can't improve if you don't.

Masterdog · 29 Mar 2009 at 23:08

steve45 said:
that leggard guy is more annoying than i ever found JA to be, he makes my teeth grate everytime he opens his mouth, did anybody else notice the amount of times martin had to grudgingly correct him over this weekend?

I thought he was a lot better today than he was yesterday, in fact I thought his commentary at the very start of the race when everything was going off was superb. We're never going to get another Murray chaps

Croft is good but then radio commentary is easier than TV commentary.

Ceryndrion · 29 Mar 2009 at 23:29

Before this weekend, Martin Brundle had the following to say of Jenson Button...

"Jenson Button seems to navigate himself into all the wrong places at the wrong time and it has been a career wasted by bad decisions."

"The 29-year-old is surely too fast and young to be washed up, but this season could be very difficult for him."

"I cannot see driving for Ross Brawn's new team (formerly Honda) doing Button's career a lot of good because they are going to be on the back foot after a winter of uncertainty."

"The expectation level on him and the team will be zero so to an extent it can only be a positive - but I don't think he needs another season floundering around."

I wonder if perhaps he'll be eating those words now..

PinkFloyd · 29 Mar 2009 at 23:31

Masterdog said:
another Murray

We can always hope though

Domo · 29 Mar 2009 at 23:42

sunama said:
I'm beginning to think that this entire forum is "BrawnGP fans" forum.

Yeah, they're a fickle bunch alright. I'm a Ferrari fan so it pains me to say this, LH went up in my estimations this weekend. Made good use of a relatively crap setup when compared with the rest of the field. Great drive.

Well done to JB too.

So if the diffuser appeal falls flat, can the other teams copy it? Is there time and will rules allow them to develop their existing diffuser?

steve45 · 30 Mar 2009 at 00:06

Domo said:
So if the diffuser appeal falls flat, can the other teams copy it? Is there time and will rules allow them to develop their existing diffuser?

dont see why not, i doubt it will be easy though with the lack of testing allowed.
was there not mention of if the teams wanted to redevelope the diffuseres. they would have to redesign the whole back end, gearbox casing etc to accomodate the new rear diffusers.

i assume this is why mclaren are keeping quiet about the whole affair, i notice they have been quite diplomatic about the whole thing which makes me believe they have something in the works themselves.

it was quite interesting to see the spys lurking about the brawns on the grid before the race

.:MBK:. · 30 Mar 2009 at 00:11

if it falls flat im sure we will see some new interesting diffusers being used in friday practice the grandprix afterwards

believe the main media stir behind teams changing is RBR would apparently have a hard time due to their more inventive rear suspension

Rudeboy · 30 Mar 2009 at 00:18

What an awesome weekend of racing and I was lucky enough to be there live for all 4 days of racing. The F1 really was the icing on the cake, just a shame about the safety car finish. I'd have loved to have bought some BrawnGP merchandise and get behind the new team, but there was none available anywhere.
Had to feel for Lewis before the race as he had so many supporters in the ground. Every other shirt I saw had Vodafone or Lewis printed on it. He did himself proud getting back up to 4th from an 18th start.
V8's, Aussie Cars and Australian GT cars were all pretty interesting to watch too and 'The Who' concert after the GP was the perfect finish to a great weekend. Just a shame it took us nearly an hour to walk the length of the pit straight to get there due to the volume of people walking the track and photographing the pits. Will I go again next year? Weekend long sunshine, 4 days of racing and a decent concert for 77quid, definately

Should be an interesting season thats for sure

Locke · 30 Mar 2009 at 00:19

Awesome yes.

But get rid of Legard and Eddie, srsly.

PinkFloyd · 30 Mar 2009 at 00:28

Sounds like a cracking weekend for £77 Rudeboy! - you lucky sod!

Rudeboy · 30 Mar 2009 at 00:47

PinkFloyd said:
Sounds like a cracking weekend for £77 Rudeboy! - you lucky sod!

Even the girlfriend loved it, which was good for me as I thought she'd get bored by the 4th day and loose interest in watching the F1 race itself, but her enthusiasm lasted right till the end which was good. Means I might get to go again next year

el_dazza · 30 Mar 2009 at 01:31

I can't believe Vettel's been penalised 10 places for that accident. He was on the inside and had every right to defend his position imo. What happened to real racing when crashes happened all the time, the drivers whinged about each other and that was that? It's pathetic giving everyone a punishment for the slightest of contact.