Bahrain GP 2009 - Race 4/17

Ferrari can surely run their car to their hearts content at their own private track ... end of the day they own the car, so I fail to see how whatever the powers that be can limit Ferrari using their car for say "show" events ... granted it would not be the same chassis as used in races, but another mock-up car?
No they can't. As for what the "powers that be" can do to stop them, the FIA can impose whatever sanctions they see fit.

In-season testing is banned, end of. Whether you have your own private track or not isn't relevant, it's testing in general that's banned, not testing at public facilities.
 
No they can't. As for what the "powers that be" can do to stop them, the FIA can impose whatever sanctions they see fit.

[standard OcUK response]

But the FIA are always doing their best to help Ferrari! Because they love Ferrari and hate our Lewis! They'll allow them to run a million miles a year at their own track and ban anyone else that tries to!

[/standard OcUK response]
 
No they can't. As for what the "powers that be" can do to stop them, the FIA can impose whatever sanctions they see fit.

In-season testing is banned, end of. Whether you have your own private track or not isn't relevant, it's testing in general that's banned, not testing at public facilities.
What about if they covered it in chevrons and camoflage like with new cars? Just have a tape of a V12 engine note running to put them off the scent...

That would work :D...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
Does anyone know what the attendance for this GP was? I am going to assume it was WAY less than the 50,000 capacity... When Brundle was doing the pit walk and the grandstand was shown, there were loads of empty seats!
 
No they can't. As for what the "powers that be" can do to stop them, the FIA can impose whatever sanctions they see fit.

In-season testing is banned, end of. Whether you have your own private track or not isn't relevant, it's testing in general that's banned, not testing at public facilities.

How CAN they stop them though ... Ferrari do NOT need FIA permission to run any car they own out on private land ... and Ferrari do own their cars.
FIA permission is needed to run the car on a 3rd party track (or rather the track needs FIA mandate to allow other parties to do that).
 
So... next championship win in 2030 then? ;)

Eh, I can live with that. I didn't start supporting Ferrari because they were winning (it was because Mansell was driving for them in fact), so them not winning isn't going to make me stop. I'd obviously rather they didn't go another 21 years without a drivers champion, but if they do - well, the last time that happened they won a few on the bounce so it all evens out in the end :)
 
How CAN they stop them though ... Ferrari do NOT need FIA permission to run any car they own out on private land ... and Ferrari do own their cars.
FIA permission is needed to run the car on a 3rd party track (or rather the track needs FIA mandate to allow other parties to do that).
Ferrari running there car will break the written rules of Formula 1 thus ensuring severe penaltys.
 
How CAN they stop them though ... Ferrari do NOT need FIA permission to run any car they own out on private land ... and Ferrari do own their cars.
FIA permission is needed to run the car on a 3rd party track (or rather the track needs FIA mandate to allow other parties to do that).

The obvious way is to kick them out of the championship.

All test sessions have to be at FIA approved centres.
 
The fake driver twitter feeds are quite funny, whoever posted them originally.

fakekimi now that I've had an ice cream I'm going to beat up DC. Did you hear what grandad said about me

FakeHeikki @fakekimi I think DC is hiding from u now,but you can ask @fakesenna,he seems know everythin,good luck buddy,BTW,i like ice-cream 2!

fakebernie @fakejenson Congrats on your win. But you’ll have to “give your all” to Ross, as Michael did, if you want to get all the way to the top.

fakemaxmosley Settle down, everyone, settle down. Results are not final until we've been through the rulebook to relegate silver/promote red. Monday week

fakefelipemassa Well, nice guys don't finish last. They finish in 14th, a lap down. :(
 
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Excellent race by Button (and the Brawn team) - he had to race for this win, that move on Hamilton was the key point of the race for him. He's very good at putting in hot laps whilst others are pitting and coming out ahead too.

Glad to see Ferrari notching up some points at last. If Massa hadn't had that incident where he hit Raikkonen (I think??) I expect he would have done a lot better, he seemed to really slip away after that. Write Ferrari off at your peril....

Storming first couple of laps, I don't think I heard a word of the commentary, it was just chopping and changing all over the place. Real racing.

Toyota promised plenty and delivered little once again, what on earth happened to Glock?

Solid but unremarkable race from Hamilton. Good start, otherwise it was nothing spectactular.

Class move by Alonso to pass that Toyota but he seemed to fade to obscurity after that. And how much more corner speed and grip did Barichello have when he was chasing Piquet?! There is a world of difference between those cars and it seemed that KERS was bailing little Nelson out for some time.

Really enjoyed that race, far from boring!
 
Does anyone know what the attendance for this GP was? I am going to assume it was WAY less than the 50,000 capacity... When Brundle was doing the pit walk and the grandstand was shown, there were loads of empty seats!

According to ESPN Star Asia, it was "100.000 fans", which was a blatant lie :eek: I so miss UK television's coverage of F1, they can't do worse than ESPN Asia.
 
Montezemolo having a moan again I see, blaming both the diffuser regulations and KERS for his teams' woes.

Well Red Bull have neither KERS nor the "trick" diffuser and are close to Brawn GP at the front of the field. Brawn themselves have no KERS.

Whilst he has, to some extent, accepted responsiblity by saying they were too complacent, it's this endless arrogance from Ferrari that fuels my hatred of them. They just can't accept that they're in a hole totally of their own making. Other teams have had to deal with the same regulations as they have and yet have done a far superior job. If they couldn't get their KERS working reliably, as McLaren seem to have managed, then they should have abandoned it prior to the season and introduced it later when they were happy with the reliability, as Williams are doing.

As for the diffuser, they may not have a "trick" one but then most other teams don't and are still doing fairly well and certainly better than they are. McLaren are also seriously lacking in downforce yet you don't hear them moaning about the regulations and claiming it's not their fault.

Ferrari have also moaned about how they're going to have to redesign their car significantly to factor in the new diffuser, well whose fault is that!? This suggests that, during the initial design phase, either the designers totally missed the "loophole" under which the "trick" diffusers are operating (in which case they're idiots) or (more likely) they did see it yet dismissed it out of hand without even considering that such designs could be proven legal (in which case they're arrogant and naive). Granted you can't totally hedge your bets and design a car which can accept both types of diffuser without compromising your overall design, so you have to "plump" for one design or the other but you'd think anyone with half a brain would realise there was a chance the loophole could be upheld and would thus ensure that, in such an event, the "trick" diffuser could be integrated into the car without starting from scratch. Ferrari obviously (IMO) looked at it and thought it would never, ever be proven legal and thus threw all their efforts into a design based around a conventional diffuser. ISTR that, in the run-up to the appeal court hearing, many were of the opinion that the FIA would rule in favour of the appellants simply because it couldn't possibly hand down a ruling which harmed its beloved Ferrari. Perhaps Ferrari themselves had the same thought back when they were designing their car?
 
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