Bahrain Grand Prix 2014, Sakhir - Race 3/19

Glaucus said:
Lol, they just smashed their fast laps, which where already unbeatable by the other teams.

Edit - or Pérez can get close.
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We'll see, again I'd point to the best teams rarely need to check their absolute pace in practice. You'd see Merc/RBR/Mclaren and sometimes Ferrari show a significant pace difference when it came to Q3.

I'd also expect the "better" teams to be more sensible and more tuned for conditions in the evening by now. I'd expect the gap to increase for Q3, but you never know.

The smaller/weaker Merc teams this is really their first chance to really work on full speed without thinking about rain. Really hope to see Williams do well, want to see what a couple mercs can do in dry conditions behind the Mercedes pair upfront.
 
Force India are looking like quite the dark horse this weekend. Could sneak some very good points.

Williams are looking good as well, Mclaren probably 5th-6th.

The Ferrari looks poor, again. Kimi especially is really struggling with it. We all know how Alonso can hustle a car, I don't think Kimi can in the same way which is why he's probably getting affected by it's problems moreso... whether it's brake by wire or the lack of downforce the car appears to have.
 
Glaucus said:
There's not a huge driver market. It's much easier to hire a good driver and tell them to thin down.
The weight is far better off in ballast as the TD said in the conference than on the drivers. So this will always be an issue regardless of weight limits. They are running ballast even with the drivers current weight.
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Except it's not easier otherwise the drivers would have lost weight and the teams wouldn't be complaining.

Sutil is running without a drinks bottle to try and save weight.
 
englishpremier said:
Except it's not easier otherwise the drivers would have lost weight and the teams wouldn't be complaining.

Sutil is running without a drinks bottle to try and save weight.
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They have lost weight, the teams aren't complaining. Did you watch the TD conference at all?
It's the drivers, media, fans complaining,

At the end of the day they are running ballast, that means the car and driver is under weight. But they still want the driver as light as possible so they have even more ballast. Increasing weight limit won't do much. Other than increasing the ballast they can use.
If teams were not running ballast then you and others would have a point. All the TD who answered the question are running ballast in the car.

Again this is not an easy issue to get round, there's literally no perfect solution. The closest would be to set a minimum driver weight and if a driver is less than that, specify ballast to be placed in a certain area of the car, this brings it's own issues though. Like a big heavy 10kilo + block of weight just behind the drivers back and the packaging that would need.
 
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MissChief said:
Sorry Toto, but I'm developing a thing for Suzie. She's smart, speaks well and looks nice to boot.
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Plus the crazy accent is oddly alluring. She does speak well though, I'm about 90% sure she was doing the commentary on one of the free practices and she was really good. Bruno Senna was good doing commentary last week in the same sessions... decent accent but not as nice looking at Suzie though :p
 
Yeah Suzie was in with Crofty for a couple of sessions last year. I didn't see P1 or P2 for this weekend, but if there was a female expert in then it was likely her.

She is a much better ambassador for Williams and Uh... Clair, Uh... Williams, Uh...
 
5000 high power light bulbs which must use sill amounts of juice. Wonder if this race use of electricity will cancel out all the fuel saved in all other races?
 
Just turned the btcc on.
More excitement in 30 seconds than in both races in f1

Better.. Noise.. Too.. Oh no I didn't :-P
 
I've kind of always wondered and would laugh if a Force India could actually be really fast and more competitive, they just never tried to do a equal strategy to other top runners and drive to a faster pace.

elmuzzy66. said:
5000 high power light bulbs which must use sill amounts of juice. Wonder if this race use of electricity will cancel out all the fuel saved in all other races?
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Ultimately the green credentials people talk about are the potential benefit to the car industry as a whole. If their research and competition with energy recovery leads to road cards being between 10-30% more efficient in the future then imagine every car made from now onwards saving that much fuel. It's the general principle of it, saving 50kg of fuel per car per race isn't really the goal of more efficiency. It's about driving technological advancement in area's that are important to more general car usage. Which makes the engine development more relevant to the car manufacturers and has already enticed one engine maker back in and stopped another one leaving.
 
So RBR and Ferrari have both used their chance to change their gear ratios this year, bith opting to shorten them.

Basically both throwing away Monza in an attempt to keep up with the Mercedes cars in the other races this year.
 
drunkenmaster said:
Ultimately the green credentials people talk about are the potential benefit to the car industry as a whole. If their research and competition with energy recovery leads to road cards being between 10-30% more efficient in the future then imagine every car made from now onwards saving that much fuel. It's the general principle of it, saving 50kg of fuel per car per race isn't really the goal of more efficiency. It's about driving technological advancement in area's that are important to more general car usage. Which makes the engine development more relevant to the car manufacturers and has already enticed one engine maker back in and stopped another one leaving.
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Indeed. Anyone who thinks F1 being more green is simply about making them use less fuel in the cars has completely missed the point.
 
Skeeter said:
Indeed. Anyone who thinks F1 being more green is simply about making them use less fuel in the cars has completely missed the point.
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The links are real though, aren't hugely accurate. I forget who mentioned it and where, free practice or the press conference. Heat energy recovery will be helpful but a car going down a motorway will gain very very little with very little braking in terms of efficiency. While a car stop starting in traffic could gain a bit more, but it's not going to be as good as an F1 car because energy recovery both heat and braking suit racing perfectly. Huge heat and insane braking is where it all comes from and normal road cars won't gain anywhere near as much. But 5% efficiency improvement on ALL cars is still a monumental amount of improvement.
 
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