Ballistix Sport LT Overclocking

Psycho Sonny · 21 Sep 2019 at 13:26

tamzzy said:
1900 is an overclocked infinity fabric. Not all chips can do it
Before you overclock the ram, it's imperative you find out what the max infinity fabric speed your chip can run

okay what voltages do you need to run that sort of IF? I left everything on auto apart from RAM voltage i put to 1.4V

i heard 3733 is the best though and 3600 the compromise. therefore isn't going to 3800 a waste of time if you can get tighter timings on 3600?

tamzzy · 21 Sep 2019 at 13:39

I'm running 1.1v soc, 1.05v vddp and 1.05v vddg, can run it lower of course, but CBA to tweak anymore.

3800 at 1:1 mode is obvs better than 3733 1:1 mode.
But if you don't manually set 3800 1:1, then 3800 will run at 1:2 mode which is then obvs slower than 3733 at 1:1 mode

Psycho Sonny · 21 Sep 2019 at 14:02

tamzzy said:
I'm running 1.1v soc, 1.05v vddp and 1.05v vddg, can run it lower of course, but CBA to tweak anymore.

3800 at 1:1 mode is obvs better than 3733 1:1 mode.
But if you don't manually set 3800 1:1, then 3800 will run at 1:2 mode which is then obvs slower than 3733 at 1:1 mode

i put soc to 1.125v
ram to 1.4v
running xmp profile for 3200mhz at 3600mhz @ 1:1 with 69.2ns latency now.

i think that is fine. not going to tweak further to gain 2-3 ns.

tamzzy · 21 Sep 2019 at 14:05

Psycho Sonny said:
i think that is fine. not going to tweak further to gain 2-3 ns.

It's tweaking the subtimings that will net the most gains

Psycho Sonny · 21 Sep 2019 at 14:15

tamzzy said:
It's tweaking the subtimings that will net the most gains

i was getting 495 on single core cpu-z bench now up to 520

it's a 5% improvement in cpu speed. i doubt there is a lot more i'll get over that.

tamzzy · 21 Sep 2019 at 14:41

@Psycho Sonny yes, but not quite. depending on what games you play, and what settings/gpu you have...the gains can actually be pretty significant:

EssexBoy · 21 Sep 2019 at 17:00

Psycho Sonny said:
i was getting 495 on single core cpu-z bench now up to 520

it's a 5% improvement in cpu speed. i doubt there is a lot more i'll get over that.

Just leave it for now as doubt we need the extra power yet.

michty_me · 21 Sep 2019 at 17:09

To be honest, If this is stable, I'll maybe just keep these settings
SOC 1.1V
DOCP enabled
DDR voltage set to 1.4V
VTT set to 0.7V

tamzzy · 21 Sep 2019 at 17:34

your vddg is really high :confused:

is that on auto?

Psycho Sonny · 21 Sep 2019 at 17:57

EssexBoy said:
Just leave it for now as doubt we need the extra power yet.

What you getting on cpu z single core bench?

TBH the only game I play is csgo and I get 300fps on it already.

I actually don't need any power.

michty_me · 21 Sep 2019 at 18:00

tamzzy said:
your vddg is really high
is that on auto?

Yeah it is. Maybe not such a good idea then

EssexBoy · 21 Sep 2019 at 18:16

Psycho Sonny said:
What you getting on cpu z single core bench?

TBH the only game I play is csgo and I get 300fps on it already.

I actually don't need any power.

537

zx128k · 21 Sep 2019 at 18:21

Maybe this will help, it worked for me.

tCL = low as possible
tRCDRD = low as possible
tRCDWR = low as possible
tRP = low as possible
tRAS = tRCD + CL. Otherwise, approximately equal to tRCD + 2×CL.

tRC = tRP + tRAS
Next two really effect performance
tRRD_S = 4 is best or low as possible
tRRD_L = 7,8,9 try to get as low as you can
tFLAW = 4 * tRRDS larger the more stable
Next two really effect performance
tWTS_S = 4 is best or low as possible
tWTR_L = 7,8,9 try to get as low as you can
tWR = 10 (min value, 12 works well too)
tMAW.MAC = 0 (auto only can't change)
TrdrdScL = 5 (can be 4 or 5) lower better
TwrwrScL = 5 (can be 4 or 5) lower better
Really effect performance
tRFC = 280 (tRFC = 8*tRC or 8*tRC + 8)lower better, aim for as close to 270 as you can.
tRFC 2 = tRFC / 1.346, auto works too
tRFC 4 = tRFC 2 / 1.625, auto works too

tCWL = tCL or tCL -1
tRTP = min of 4, tRTP as low as possible
Trdwr = lower better
tRDWR: these timings directly impact AVX. The tighter they are, the hotter AVX is. The looser they are, the cooler AVX is.

Get as low as possible but I have no idea what these do.
TwrwrSC = 1 (min value)
TwrwrSd = 2 (min value)
TwrwrDd = 2 (min value)
TrdrdSc = 1 (min value)
TrdrdSd = 2 (min value)
TrdrdDd = 2 (min value)

Psycho Sonny · 21 Sep 2019 at 19:07

EssexBoy said:
537

So 3% faster than me, but I have 3600x what is your boost speed? I'm 4.4ghz on single core.

Tbh I'm happy with it. I honestly can't be bothered removing my cmos battery any more it's a PITA every time it fails to boot.

EssexBoy · 21 Sep 2019 at 20:34

Psycho Sonny said:
So 3% faster than me, but I have 3600x what is your boost speed? I'm 4.4ghz on single core.

Tbh I'm happy with it. I honestly can't be bothered removing my cmos battery any more it's a PITA every time it fails to boot.

4.4 as well.

What board you got? I just use the bios reset pin when it failed before.

See if your's has one.

Psycho Sonny · 21 Sep 2019 at 20:40

EssexBoy said:
4.4 as well.

What board you got? I just use the bios reset pin when it failed before.

See if your's has one.

MSI B350 tomahawk.

Ancient so I don't want to push it too much.

EssexBoy · 21 Sep 2019 at 21:01

Psycho Sonny said:
MSI B350 tomahawk.

Ancient so I don't want to push it too much.

Psycho Sonny said:
MSI B350 tomahawk.

Ancient so I don't want to push it too much.

Board is fine.

Psycho Sonny · 21 Sep 2019 at 21:04

EssexBoy said:
Board is fine.

Now all I need is a jumper cap. Still a pain in the back side.

EssexBoy · 21 Sep 2019 at 21:07

Psycho Sonny said:
Now all I need is a jumper cap. Still a pain in the back side.

Use a reset\power switch :rolleyes:

i have it permanently connected.

Psycho Sonny · 21 Sep 2019 at 21:32

EssexBoy said:
Use a reset\power switch i have it permanently connected.

You are a man of means though.

I don't have crap like that lying about.

Anyway it's going to make zero difference to me in the real world.

I might have another go tomorrow. But I reckon I'm just going to drop soc voltage to 1.1v and be content with what I have done. Its an extra 5% performance. If I feel I ever need that extra 3% I will likely be upgrading to the 4600x.