BARGAIN - OcUK 24" with DVI (*VA Panel) for £179.99+VAT (This Week Only Deal!!)

they can do 9-5 delivery pickup. so if you can wait for pickup in that time phone them back and ask them when they are collecting it and they will set up a collection for you.

and to guy who risk it or not. I say if you have the time risk it because currently on my 5th and i would still send it back for another lol.

But all i say is make sure you check it for all problems like backlight,scratches , pre used, pixel walk and anything else i missed lol.
 
colinuk said:
Warranty, dead pixels, having to send it back to get a good one, colour representaion
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Plenty of expensive PVA/IPS screens come with very poor pre-configured colours; spending £150 more on a monitor doesn't really mean that it will be better unless you have access to calibration hardware. Look at most reviews and you'll see even expensive models often come with horrible pre-configured settings when it comes to colour accuracy.

I really don't understand the way manufacturers do this, especially when these monitors cost a decent amount more. Even Iiyama's budget TN monitor comes pre-configured with an average E delta of 2. If Iiyama can manage this with a really cheap monitor for the masses, I find it astonishing that so many premium monitors come so badly set up. I suppose their rationalisation is that most folk don't know their gamma from their elbow, so they don't see the point. However, if a monitor was guaranteed to come out of the box with accurate colours, they could probably use it as a selling point.

The vast majority of people don't have access to a colour calibration tool, let alone know what one is. Amateurs and people who want colour good fidelity but don't have the means to achieve it would be interested in a monitor that comes pre-calibrated to some degree.

The only folk who have colour calibration tools generally don't care what the monitor's initial settings are because they can get it nicely configured later on.

I know that you can't get a monitor spot-on without driver level colour table alterations, but it'd be nice if manufacturers could at least give it a go. When you see premium monitors shipping with e deltas > 6, it takes the proverbial ...wee.

I hope that, one day in the future, monitors and their specific panel types will be identifiable by the OS, which will then find all potential calibration profiles and ask the user to choose one. I.e. you would be almost guaranteed a good (not saying perfect) calibration regardless of monitor, revision or panel type as long as there existed a profile for it.
 
So, before i hit this magic BUY IT NOW button lol... am i right in thinking this is the case.

When OcUK send hte screen out, check to see if its a PVa and if its a TN, ring OcUK they come and pick it up and swap it for the PVA as the PVA is a better screen than the TN. I dnt need dead pixels ect, just ring and get it swapped...

Now that sounds too good to be true lol...

Right, off to bed, will catch up with this thread at work and you never know... might just spend the cash and buy one.

<ColiN>
 
Yup colin. The box states it does 180/180 view angles, which a TN panel physically cant do. Use that as a basis for sending back if they get arsey. But they shouldnt.
 
colinuk said:
So, before i hit this magic BUY IT NOW button lol... am i right in thinking this is the case.

When OcUK send hte screen out, check to see if its a PVa and if its a TN, ring OcUK they come and pick it up and swap it for the PVA as the PVA is a better screen than the TN. I dnt need dead pixels ect, just ring and get it swapped...

Now that sounds too good to be true lol...

Right, off to bed, will catch up with this thread at work and you never know... might just spend the cash and buy one.

<ColiN>
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Yep, that's what happened to me. Viewing angles didn't match up, they came and collected. Verified the error was on their behalf, replaced the monitor and dropped it off the following week.

All for free.

:)
 
Well my replacement has turned up :) and it alll seems good! It's the AU-M240UW01-V0 P-MVA panel. No dead pixels and back light bleed seems ok (although will see tonight for sure) and unlike the last one it does work fine on DVI :) So all in all, pretty happy. I will try and do a latency test against my 21" Sony G520 CRT later.
 
Ives0201 said:
Spoke to OCUK today and they said send it back to them.........can I claim back the postage seeing as thought it is not working out of the box, as they didn't mention anything about collection? Sorry, not had to deal with the whole RMA thing before!

Thanks

Ives
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My experience is different, Ives. I just asked them to arrange collection and they did - no problem. Of course, if the thing you rae sending back proves to be OK and noty faulty you have a £10 plus carriage to pay (about £20) but with these monitors they seem happy to swap out faulty ones and, of course,, have to swap out the TN film ones.
 
Right here are the results of my latency test. First off it seems very good :) It was never more than one refresh out of the CRT (16ms) in any of the photos, infact it usually showed the same as the CRT. Both monitors where running 1680x1050 60Hz as for some reason my graphics card fails to provide a DVI signal when there both running at 1920x1200....

Anyway here are some example photos, all shot at 1/1000th of a second.

Best Case - Same:
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Worst Case - 16ms different:
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Middle Case ~ 8ms different:
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Obviously one thing to note is that the CRT would normally be running at 100Hz not 60Hz, so that would give it a further advantage i should think?

Hope this is of use to some :)
 
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Gregeff said:
Hope this is of use to some :)
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Definitely, thanks :)

I agree, very good results for a 24" screen. Around the same as the SM245B which is a fast gaming screen with a TN panel, so that's a really good showing for an MVA screen. Makes it a really good gaming screen in my book.
 
Thanks, Fish, I wasn't quite sure what the data means. I've certainly thought it good, though. Playing fast moving games the screen never shows blurs and remains sharp.
 
Surely OCUK would save a bundle just by shipping out the correct panel monitor in the first place? Was thinking of buying one of these lovely monitors but i can't handle the hassle of waiting in for a collection and re-delivery!

Are they ever likely to get the panel spot on with the first delivery?
 
Clearly some people have got PVA panels first time, but of course we'll never know what proportion of people were lucky. I can't say I've read all 109 pages of this thread, but from what I have read, the later the thread has gone on the more people seem to be complaining about getting TN panels.

Like you, I'm not sure if I would be willing to risk not getting a PVA panel, as it would be hard enough for me to take delivery of it in the first place, never mind get round to sending it back again. Just not worth the effort imo, I'll probably go for some other monitor or wait it out and see if this panel situation improves a bit :)
 
Well, i bit the bullet and order one... £8.95 for postage too.... came to £245.50p all in, so with luck, will get a nice screen tomorrow and when i get back on friday, set it up - check the settings, shout for joy...

So, can i ask again, how do i check to make sure i have a good screen and what am i looking for?

<ColiN>
 
Well sat in for 8 hour today waiting for City Link to pick up my monitor for rma only to have the City Link website at 5 o'clock say that the collection point was closed :confused: - after being sent on the phone to 3 call centres the final lady I spoke to ask if I had been carded I told her that I had not, she said she would ask the driver what happened and reshedule delivery for tomorrow - so looks like I'll be without a monitor over weekend :(
 
colinuk said:
So, can i ask again, how do i check to make sure i have a good screen and what am i looking for?

<ColiN>
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Firstly, check if the screen is glossy/shiny. If it iss, then it's a TN panel. If it looks like a matte finish (blurry), then it's PVA/MVA. Secondly, check the viewing angles. On my first time, I received a PVA/MVA screen, but it had ridiculous viewing angles when looking vertically upwards: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11221244&postcount=2513

It should look something like this: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10552114&postcount=170

If it doesn't have those viewing angles, send it back. That's what I did and now I have a decent one.

:)
 
i have two VA atm one has to go back because of bad backlight marks and not turning on...

but my new don't seem to matach the same whiteness as broken one.

any tips on how to ajust the colors so the look same?

also the broken one is samg other is AU not had chance to look up the code yet. will paste a picture that i have taken with them both next to each other. tomorrow
 
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