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fish99 said:
I've had this with every LCD I've owned, they seem massively bright for the first week, then somehow you just get used to it.
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Would be true if we were talking about tens of cd/m2.
But in this case these monitors are always maxed out @ 500 cd/m2 which means this is about at least 4 times the desired, viewable 150 cd/m2. :(

So no thank you, I'm not gonna take any chances of retinal burn with it... :mad:
 
Echopapa, there's a chance the problem may be with your eyes rather than the monitor. I suffer from mild photophobia (excessive sensitivity to light) and the Yuraku with brightness at 30% isn't bright enough to cause me any serious discomfort, so I'd say anyone who can't use it in a normally-lit room without pain is very sensitive to light and should be thinking about visiting an optician to be checked out.
 
echopapa said:
Would be true if we were talking about tens of cd/m2.
But in this case these monitors are always maxed out @ 500 cd/m2 which means this is about at least 4 times the desired, viewable 150 cd/m2. :(

So no thank you, I'm not gonna take any chances of retinal burn with it... :mad:
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Fair enough, I didn't realize it was that bright. That is excessive for a screen you're supposed to sit about 2 feet from :eek: Many HDTVs designed for living rooms and 8ft+ viewing are less bright. Interestingly the Yuraku is a much more reasonable 300cd/m2.
 
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DrBombcrater said:
Echopapa, there's a chance the problem may be with your eyes rather than the monitor. I suffer from mild photophobia (excessive sensitivity to light) and the Yuraku with brightness at 30% isn't bright enough to cause me any serious discomfort, so I'd say anyone who can't use it in a normally-lit room without pain is very sensitive to light and should be thinking about visiting an optician to be checked out.
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It made me think of this too! I did try turn on every available light source and only in broad daylight was it barely bearable (sitting ~80 cm from it). It was only great for watching movies sitting on a couch 3 m away but then you lose the resolution viewing ofcourse. :cool:

Mind you, if you've got a AUO v0 panel then you get 500 cd/m2, the other panels are 300 cd/m2. Reducing (panel!) brightness < 30% would help a lot but you are then in fact screwing around with the panel itself and not the backlight. This severely handicaps contrast (no way you can achieve decent contrast anymore even by bumping contrast to 100%). :mad:

So i was rather disappointed, might feel lucky and have a go at a new order (that is if I can guarantee to get a v0 panel that is direct moddable). :p

For the time being, saving up for the 515 euro Viewsonic VX2435bm....ah well I'm happy for all the folks who bought these OCUk screens and have no issues, they're just a bargain...just my 2 cts.
 
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HELLLLLLLLLLP

As you may all notice im posting this at 2:30 in the morning. Its because im still awake trying to fix my monitor resolution problem. Ive now officially given up for the night and handed it over to you guys to see what you make of my whole conundrum.

Okay so ive had the monitor about 3 weeks now. Been playing Xbox 360 on it after my exams for hours on end. No problems at all. BUT my PC is playing up. Its a problem with the DVI connection only because when i connect via VGA it works fine. My problem is that when i bump up my res from whatever to 1920*1200 in windows the monitors resolution stays unchanged. The dektop then leaves me scrolling around (as windows actually has changed to 1920*1200 but the monitor hasnt so i have to scroll when i reach the edge of the monitor).
SO i decided to do some research today (because i hardly ever use the monitor with my PC mostly with my Xbox so it hadnt peed me off enough for me to sit down and solve it). After trying it with other computers and with VGA i got it down to a problem ONLY when i connect via DVI. So i spent hours researching and realised it might be my setup. Im using a Nvidia Gforce 5200 FX and other people have had the problem with the same graphics card as well as other graphics cards with a wide variety of monitors. These people all say that its a driver update but i have tried about 6 drivers now and nothing seems to work! Anyway i went on to research about changing the firmware of the monitor via updateding the EDID to change to my resolution when I change it.
I looked for a fix using the EDID settings found one but now.. the EDID on the god-damn monitor is write protected. So i look for a fix for this. But find that I have to open the damn thing up to do this. Now its 2:45 in the morning and i still have no blooooooomin fix. Im so annoyed and peed off that I havent been able to fix it myself (because i do with most things).
Anyway i hope somebody with a similar problem can report back to me.
Thanks.
 
Probably the quickest solution is to replace your graphics card. The DVI implementation on cards that old tend to be troublesome anyway, particularly at 1920x1200 which is right at the edge of what single-link DVI can cope with, replacing it may save you some headaches in future. The thing about rewriting the EDID settings is at red-herring, at least in this case. The monitor is sending correct EDID information (mine does anyway, I can't imagine yours is any different) but the gfx card/driver either isn't reading it properly or just isn't able to set the required resolution over DVI.

You might want to try forcing 1920x1200 with the advanced timing function in Powerstrip. It ignores any EDID-based restrictions enforced by the graphics card driver and just brute-forces whatever resolution you request. That will at least show if your FX5200 can do 1920x1200 correctly.

I use Powerstrip to set my monitor to 50Hz for TV watching purposes because the EDID information lists 60Hz as the only supported refresh rate, so the gfx card drivers don't offer anything else.
 
How good are these panels in films, I just compared mine to my mate Plasma (it is top of the range 720P Pioneer Kuro) I was playing 1080P he was 720P compared to his TV the colours are so washed out and no where near as bright and picture quality poor in comparison.
Is this par for the course or should mine be better, is it to do with the backlight being pretty bright that makes the colours appeared washed out.
Film was I am legend on my my screen the browns where grey where'as brown on the plasma and his face had more shades of brown on the plasma to me.
If this is wrong I will exchange it, bit with nothing to go by, I might be barking up the wrong tree. I have a panel out of a top BenQ so you would think it would be great in films.
 
Banny said:
Is this par for the course or should mine be better, is it to do with the backlight being pretty bright that makes the colours appeared washed out.

I might be barking up the wrong tree. I have a panel out of a top BenQ so you would think it would be great in films.
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You're right on the spot; there's nothing wrong with the panel: it's the damn backlight that is killing it...:mad:
 
Banny said:
Is this par for the course or should mine be better, is it to do with the backlight being pretty bright that makes the colours appeared washed out.
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Plasma inherently gives a brighter and more vivid display than back-lit technologies like LCD. That's why it still gets used, because TVs are shooting for a bold, vivid picture that makes people in shops go "ohhh, that one looks nice!". The colour settings and image processing hardware in the TV will be set-up with that in mind, too.

The picture quality of the DGM/Yuraku is very good (it's one of the best consumer-level monitors I've seen, and I've been using LCDs since their response time was measured in seconds!) but no low cost LCD monitor is ever going to win a fight with an expensive Plasma TV when it comes to showing films. You could do the comparison again with a monitor that costs three or four times as much and it would do little if any better.
 
echopapa said:
You're right on the spot; there's nothing wrong with the panel: it's the damn backlight that is killing it...:mad:
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with respect, this backlight issue was pretty much non existant before you started mentioning it. i have no problem with mine and neither do 1000's of other people.

Banny said:
How good are these panels in films, I just compared mine to my mate Plasma (it is top of the range 720P Pioneer Kuro) I was playing 1080P he was 720P compared to his TV the colours are so washed out and no where near as bright and picture quality poor in comparison.
Is this par for the course or should mine be better, is it to do with the backlight being pretty bright that makes the colours appeared washed out.
Film was I am legend on my my screen the browns where grey where'as brown on the plasma and his face had more shades of brown on the plasma to me.
If this is wrong I will exchange it, bit with nothing to go by, I might be barking up the wrong tree. I have a panel out of a top BenQ so you would think it would be great in films.
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if you are going to compare ANY LCD to a Kuro its going to come out worse off. your DGM costs how much compared to a kuro? lol. have you calibrated the display yet?
 
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james.miller said:
with respect, this backlight issue was pretty much non existant before you started mentioning it. i have no problem with mine and neither do 1000's of other people.
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No problemo :p
It's only surprising that this wasn't mentioned before in any UK forum whereas the German, French & Finnish forums have been flooded with this critic.

But this sounds really good and might give me hope after the earlier bad Yuraku experience to purchase one soon from OCuk.. :)
 
Banny said:
How good are these panels in films, I just compared mine to my mate Plasma (it is top of the range 720P Pioneer Kuro) I was playing 1080P he was 720P compared to his TV the colours are so washed out and no where near as bright and picture quality poor in comparison.
Is this par for the course or should mine be better, is it to do with the backlight being pretty bright that makes the colours appeared washed out.
Film was I am legend on my my screen the browns where grey where'as brown on the plasma and his face had more shades of brown on the plasma to me.
If this is wrong I will exchange it, bit with nothing to go by, I might be barking up the wrong tree. I have a panel out of a top BenQ so you would think it would be great in films.
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£200 pound screen vs a £1500+ screen, which do you think should be better?
 
DrBombcrater said:
Probably the quickest solution is to replace your graphics card. The DVI implementation on cards that old tend to be troublesome anyway, particularly at 1920x1200 which is right at the edge of what single-link DVI can cope with, replacing it may save you some headaches in future. The thing about rewriting the EDID settings is at red-herring, at least in this case. The monitor is sending correct EDID information (mine does anyway, I can't imagine yours is any different) but the gfx card/driver either isn't reading it properly or just isn't able to set the required resolution over DVI.

You might want to try forcing 1920x1200 with the advanced timing function in Powerstrip. It ignores any EDID-based restrictions enforced by the graphics card driver and just brute-forces whatever resolution you request. That will at least show if your FX5200 can do 1920x1200 correctly.

I use Powerstrip to set my monitor to 50Hz for TV watching purposes because the EDID information lists 60Hz as the only supported refresh rate, so the gfx card drivers don't offer anything else.
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Thanks for the reply. Just tried the advanced timing settings and i dont know how to get my head around them. I did try and force the 1920*1200 res but n othing changed on the monitor/ my settings in windows. Anyway im gonna give up now. Thanks for your help mate..
 
Banny said:
How good are these panels in films, I just compared mine to my mate Plasma (it is top of the range 720P Pioneer Kuro) I was playing 1080P he was 720P compared to his TV the colours are so washed out and no where near as bright and picture quality poor in comparison.
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I would think your mate would be proper ****** off if this monitor got anywhere near to his plasma in movies.:p
 
Kalpsn2000 said:
I would think your mate would be proper ****** off if this monitor got anywhere near to his plasma in movies.:p
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Hehehe, comparing the Pioneer Kuro plasma to virtually any LCD (monitor or TV) will probably see the LCD come second best.

For what its worth, I did a lot of tests, comparing my old Sony CRT monitor with this LCD monitor. The image quality on HD videos is marginally better on the LCD. However, on SD stuff, the CRT beats the LCD, hands down. Its not even close. The LCD is very bright and vivid, though the CRT has better blacks.

For £230, you cant go wrong with this monitor.
 
I had one 2wks ago

Benq FP241W panel aka AU-M240UW01-V0

Think others and myself got this panel around 2wks ago :)

Have Fun

Def

ps: Not a single dead/lazy pixel, Vibrant colours, Hardly had to change any settings

Still amazed as i sit in front of it (it's putting my old tv to shame almost lol)
 
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