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Ezyryder said:
But you are not including Steam!

If you account the $98.5 million that is nearly 2 million copies sold on PC.
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Those figures must be wrong, because all the sales figures I can find all point to PC sales of COD:Black Ops amount to around 3% of the total sales.

http://listphobia.com/2010/11/21/10-best-selling-video-games-of-2010/

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/82685/call-of-duty-black-ops-sells-7-million-copies-on-day-one/

http://www.el33tonline.com/past/2010/11/15/call_of_duty_black_ops_destroys/

http://www.cod7blackops.com/


The best selling PC game of 2010 was StarCraft 2 with sales of around 1.7 million.

http://www.gamesonsmash.com/2010/08/03/starcraft-ii-best-selling-pc-game-of-2010/

http://www.techspot.com/news/39854-starcraft-ii-deemed-the-best-selling-pc-game-of-2010.html


So it's just not possible for Black Ops to have sold 2 million units on PC.
 
SC2, only 1.7 million copies?

"Blizzard has announced that StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty has sold 1.5 million copies in the first 48 hours of the game’s release."

I think its safe to say its sold more then .2 million since 48 hours after release.
 
barmyllama said:
Those figures must be wrong, because all the sales figures I can find all point to PC sales of COD:Black Ops amount to around 3% of the total sales.

http://listphobia.com/2010/11/21/10-best-selling-video-games-of-2010/

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/82685/call-of-duty-black-ops-sells-7-million-copies-on-day-one/

http://www.el33tonline.com/past/2010/11/15/call_of_duty_black_ops_destroys/

http://www.cod7blackops.com/


The best selling PC game of 2010 was StarCraft 2 with sales of around 1.7 million.

http://www.gamesonsmash.com/2010/08/03/starcraft-ii-best-selling-pc-game-of-2010/

http://www.techspot.com/news/39854-starcraft-ii-deemed-the-best-selling-pc-game-of-2010.html


So it's just not possible for Black Ops to have sold 2 million units on PC.
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That's because steam don't ever release sales figures, and they can't guess a random number so they disregard anything sold on steam and just keep the figures of the other sales.

I don't see what is so hard to understand about this.
 
The dragging thing sounds great, makes sense to do so although it would be nice if the injured person could at least use a pistol (or drop a smoke grenade for cover) while you move them.

^ That teaser trailer :D
 
Aedus said:
That's because steam don't ever release sales figures, and they can't guess a random number so they disregard anything sold on steam and just keep the figures of the other sales.

I don't see what is so hard to understand about this.
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Steam sales are irrelevant.

My point was that PC gamers' opinion of Black Ops was irrelevant due to the small percentage of total sales.

All the sites I linked to say the same thing, the percentage of total sales of Black Ops on PC was around 3% of all sales.

There is no way that Black Ops sold 2 million copies on PC.

All PC copies of Black Ops, whether retail or digital, required Steam to play. The maximum number of players for Black Ops peaked at around 230,000 players when the game was first released. That means if you are right and the PC version of Black Ops sold 2million copies, only around 10% of all players were ever online at anyone time. I find that very hard to believe.

I also find it hard to believe that if PC sales of Black Ops were anywhere near 2 million then we wouldn't have been so royally shafted by Activision in terms of the finished product that PC games got.

Here's a list of the biggest selling PC games of ALL time, there's not one COD game on there and the lowest postioned game sold a million copies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_PC_video_games
 
I like the commander feature in BF2. I also liked flying black hawks in and dropping off a squad on a rooftop. I enjoyed having a small squad and issuing commands, then taking positions strategically and also enjoyed backing people up with sniper cover from a long distance. I'll also admit to loving the mig fighter jets, I would spend literally days flying these around the mountains basically untouchable.

I miss BF2. Possibly my most played game of all time.
 
Okay Barm I agree with you totally, PC obviously sold only 400,000 units, priced at $50.00 each, which generated $98.2 Million revenue.


Oh wait.
 
A European developer, but for the 10000000000000th time it naturally centers around American soldiers and their tiresome patriotic imagery. It's getting boring now. Come on, this is beyond cliche'd.
 
Tefal said:
One thing you notice about that list compared to the console ones is it's much more varied i ntypes of games etc.
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That's partly my point really.

COD is what console gamers want, COD sells more on console than PC and therefore the people who make COD make it for console gamers. Thus rendering PC gamers opinions of COD reduntant to the makers of COD, which one PC gamer said 2 pages back was a "borefest." He was responding to my prediction that BF3 would slip to March 2012 as EA would bottle releasing it at the same time as the annual November COD release.
 
Aedus said:
Okay Barm I agree with you totally, PC obviously sold only 400,000 units, priced at $50.00 each, which generated $98.2 Million revenue.


Oh wait.
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I already said those figures must be wrong.

The same list also states that Portal generated $20 in sales, at it's current price of £9.99 or around $15 that means it sold 1.3 million in 2010 three years after it's original release. Again I doubt that very much
 
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barmyllama said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_PC_video_games
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First line: "This is an incomplete list". That article is poor really. The BF2 sales figure of 2.25million copies was actually what was sold in the first year after release. (See BF2 article)

PC sales figures are such an enigma, it's almost impossible to get accurate data. I'd be shocked if Cod4 or MW2 hadn't sold more than 1 million copies on PC.

As for the 230,000 max players on Steam. I would be shocked if that was more than 20% of all the people that bought the game playing at once, especially when you consider time zones.
 
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barmyllama said:
I already said those figures must be wrong.
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Steam release those figures, but they don't release sale numbers for anything.

PC didn't only shift 3% of Black ops sales, they can only account for 3% of the sales, there's a difference, but for some reason you can't see this.

I'm done with this conversation though, believe what you want, this thread is about BF3, not CoD sales.
 
Aedus said:
Steam release those figures, but they don't release sale numbers for anything.

PC didn't only shift 3% of Black ops sales, they can only account for 3% of the sales, there's a difference, but for some reason you can't see this.

I'm done with this conversation though, believe what you want, this thread is about BF3, not CoD sales.
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Those figures weren't released by Steam they were estimated by an Analyst firm.
 
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