Battlefield 4 Recommended Requirements - 3GB Vram

[flopper]

Because it's not 'old'!

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/products/lifecycle

Personally I'm not fond of W8 and until 8.1 I see no need to move from W7. I paid £180 for W7 Ultimate around 5 years ago and wouldn't like to get less than 5 years out of an OS, especially as Microsoft are supporting it for another 2 years.

Its old for me archelogical stuff.
Its like people who never buy new cloths or underwear due to they always bought the same stuff from the same shop.
only OS I used that works with blazingly fast speeds and without any hick ups is windows 8. its an awesome OS.

That DICE use windows 8 with 64 bit and 8gb ram just points to why windows 8 is the OS to go for BF4.
Naturally Microsoft could support windows 7 the same way but why would they do that? better to sell a new OS that works way better.
windows 8 has a ton of stuff written for it under the hood, much I suspect BF4 has also vs BF3.

The AMD consol involvement also would allow us a better PC gaming without the bad porting like elder scrolls type of ****.

now soon R200 x amd card is out so BF4 with 3gb ram will run as intended

 

[tommybhoy]

3gb cards in xfire won't be sacrificing but 2gb cards might was the point.

You mention plural gpu's, the recipients mention a single 2gb gpu won't have sufficient gpu grunt to push the vram-well hello whats' new there.

Same argument went round in circles with 2gb 6950 CrossFire vs 1gb 560/570 1.25gb SLi when BF3 launched, and looked what happened there-cue loads of 560's/570 on the mm while 6950 CrossFire was mixing up the battlefield.

The bit that always gets ignored matt-2 X OC'ed 7950's probably will have the grunt on single screens for max IQ(not full ultra with 2xAA) with BF4 whether 2 x 2gb 670/80/770's can, we'll we will wait in suspense.

Read it again before inbound flak comes my way, I never said they won't.

Maybe i should try the BF4 profile for BF3?

It's terrible on BF3.

Nothing to do with older software, it's just 8 is a pile of **** to use!!!

Saying that I'm gonna try out 8.1 and disable all the Metro crap

Disable metro and 8 is slicker and faster than 7, not to mention games look better on 8 using AMD-with better colour and saturation .

It's the usual fanfare of resent as folks don't like change, it certainly aint no Vista.

 

[Roady]

It's the usual fanfare of resent as folks don't like change, it certainly aint no Vista.

Everyone was afraid it *would* be another Vista and the Metro interface is too much of a change for many. It's nice to be proven wrong by Microsoft, but still the take up of Windows 8 is slow in any other market than the home.

Its old for me archelogical stuff.
Its like people who never buy new cloths or underwear due to they always bought the same stuff from the same shop.
only OS I used that works with blazingly fast speeds and without any hick ups is windows 8. its an awesome OS.

I would suggest that points more towards your configuration. Along the same lines I would suggest you run out and buy a new car every 3 years due to there being a Newer Model (TM) (or a new registration every 6 months...?) The fact that most manufacturers warranty is now 5 years doesn't mean your car won't be able to get you from A to B in 10 years time.

If something's working well, then why change it? I'll be running BF4 on my Q6600. Are you saying I shouldn't be able to because it's at least 5 generations of Intel chips behind? So someone on an i3-2120 is going to get better performance because it's newer?

Edit: On a side note to dismay flopper further: I still support and use Windows 2000 (on dial-up) in a number of places. For people who wouldn't otherwise have PC's and a connection. World. Blown.

 

[zoomee]

The advantage of using Windows 8 is down to Direct X. Windows 8 FULLY supports DX 11.1 properly where-as the older OS's don't. DX 11.1 introduces some nifty efficiency and coding optimisations of which I'm actually glad BF4 will be able to take advantage of.

Whilst it will run on older OS's - it'll be more efficient on Win8 due to DX11.1

EDIT: Actually Windows 7 only has a 'portion' of the full DX11.1 commands - so yes it's Windows 8 which brings FULL DX 11.1 functionality.
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/windows_7_will_receive_some_directx_111_features_after_all

Its DX11.2 thats only for Win8.1: http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/1...xclusive-microsoft-dangles-the-upgrade-carrot

 

[cainer]

yea lesser overhead on windows 8.
No idea why people cling to older software.

 

[Roady]

The advantage of using Windows 8 is down to Direct X. Windows 8 FULLY supports DX 11.1 properly where-as the older OS's don't. DX 11.1 introduces some nifty efficiency and coding optimisations of which I'm actually glad BF4 will be able to take advantage of.

Whilst it will run on older OS's - it'll be more efficient on Win8 due to DX11.1

EDIT: Actually Windows 7 only has a 'portion' of the full DX11.1 commands - so yes it's Windows 8 which brings FULL DX 11.1 functionality.
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/windows_7_will_receive_some_directx_111_features_after_all

Its DX11.2 thats only for Win8.1: http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/1...xclusive-microsoft-dangles-the-upgrade-carrot

So DX11.2 is the carrot, much the same way DX10 was the carrot for W7 from XP?

Actual BF4 performance figure differences will be interesting to see... I probably will get 8.1 through my work MSDN sub, so I may make myself a guinea pig for some benches! (Even better if I update my CPU before! )

Everyone knows that 8.1 will probably be free (for most, not sure if ones who took advantage of the upgrade will qualify), but Windows 8.2 you'll probably have to pay for (in a years time)

 

[LtMatt]

It's terrible on BF3.

I wouldn't go that far, but it definitely drops usage a bit. Don't think i ever saw 99% usage with it. Probably a placebo but fps seemed higher.

 

[Suarez7]

I wouldn't go that far, but it definitely drops usage a bit. Don't think i ever saw 99% usage with it. Probably a placebo but fps seemed higher.

Spoiler

 

[LtMatt]

Haha. I'm always wary of placebo. Once bitten twice shy.

 

[tommybhoy]

I wouldn't go that far, but it definitely drops usage a bit. Don't think i ever saw 99% usage with it. Probably a placebo but fps seemed higher.

Only tried one round, was only getting 36% usage on 1 gpu while the other was sitting@99%, could have had ulps enabled at the time though.

 

[LtMatt]

Only tried one round, was only getting 36% usage on 1 gpu while the other was sitting@99%, could have had ulps enabled at the time though.

Shame on you. I had ULPS off.

 

[GoogalyMoogaly]

So if people are saying that 2GB isn't enough for 1080p, does that mean only titan owners will be able to play on multiple screens? Surely if it's going to take 3GB for 1080p then 3x 1080p screens will mean you'll need more, not triple but surely a decent chunk more?

 

[Jono8]

So if people are saying that 2GB isn't enough for 1080p, does that mean only titan owners will be able to play on multiple screens? Surely if it's going to take 3GB for 1080p then 3x 1080p screens will mean you'll need more, not triple but surely a decent chunk more?

You would have thought so wouldnt you.....

 

[LtMatt]

I don't think anyone ever said 2gb wouldn't be enough for 1080p did they? Its only at larger resolutions that one would expect the extra vram to help.

 

[RetrogamerX]

We have been saying this the whole time. 2gb at 1080p will be just fine. If your going 1440p or 1600p then you'll need more then 2gb.

No need for everyone to freak out OMG I NEED MORE THEN 2GB TO PLAY BF4. Too late though......If you search google the whole gaming community is freaking out over rumors and here say? Same thing happened when BF3 came out too. I have to laugh really...It's all a bit silly if your ask me...

 

[shankly1985]

Time will tell, all I can say is bring on bf4.

 

[Suarez7]

Really looking forward to it, the new additions and them bringing back old features like commander mode I think it will be excellent.

 

[GoogalyMoogaly]

I don't think anyone ever said 2gb wouldn't be enough for 1080p did they? Its only at larger resolutions that one would expect the extra vram to help.

I thought this whole thread was about that, except for the bit about people having illegal versions of Windows 8 (I'm pretty sure upgrading an illegal version of Win7 with a legal version is illegal, otherwise they'd just have sold the full versions for £25).

A number of times you said you'll probably have to turn AA down to 2x with 2GB VRAM at 1080p.

 

[RetrogamerX]

A number of times you said you'll probably have to turn AA down to 2x with 2GB VRAM at 1080p.

Yes he did.

 

[shankly1985]

Really looking forward to it, the new additions and them bringing back old features like commander mode I think it will be excellent.

Yer completely agree, the things they added looks very good.
That new game mode looks a lot of fun also forget it's name