Bengals...

[benneh]

We live opposite a main road, there's no way we'd let them out not on a lead, it would just be asking for trouble.

So do we , cats generally have the sense to stay out of the road. What with the big cars hurtling by and all.

 

[JasonO]

Do they come in white aswell?

Yep they come in white.

IIRC you can have them full white or black (melanistic), marbled or spotted in ginger / brown or white.




I have two, Morpheus is a little over 2 years old and is a large marbled male, and Neo is a little over 6 months and is a snow spotted male. They both have excellant pedigrees and they are happy house cats.

I only recently introduced Neo to Morpheus, and they are getting along just fine. The were happily playing and sleeping together within a few weeks.

The only problem we have is that Morpheus is used to having a constant food supply, and Neo gorges himself eating all food immediately. Hopefully he'll grow out of this soon.

Neo is going through a stage of chewing things right now, so cardbord boxes, newspapers and magazines are fair game IHPO. I'm getting quite fed up finding my important mail shredded but I'll just have to persevere on his junk mail recognition training.

Bengals have such a wonderful character, I would highly recomend them in almost any household. They are great with my kids (7&13) and a definate part of the family. They do desire attention though, and you will have to play fetch, close doors behind them, fish them out of the bath tub, and turn taps off which they've left running. You'll get used to them jumping on you with wet paws, and head butting you whilst your try to ignore them during your favourite TV moments.

Go on, you know you wanna.

 

[kitten_caboodle]

Yep they come in white.

IIRC you can have them full white or black (melanistic), marbled or spotted in ginger / brown or white.




I have two, Morpheus is a little over 2 years old and is a large marbled male, and Neo is a little over 6 months and is a snow spotted male. They both have excellant pedigrees and they are happy house cats.

I only recently introduced Neo to Morpheus, and they are getting along just fine. The were happily playing and sleeping together within a few weeks.

The only problem we have is that Morpheus is used to having a constant food supply, and Neo gorges himself eating all food immediately. Hopefully he'll grow out of this soon.

Neo is going through a stage of chewing things right now, so cardbord boxes, newspapers and magazines are fair game IHPO. I'm getting quite fed up finding my important mail shredded but I'll just have to persevere on his junk mail recognition training.

Bengals have such a wonderful character, I would highly recomend them in almost any household. They are great with my kids (7&13) and a definate part of the family. They do desire attention though, and you will have to play fetch, close doors behind them, fish them out of the bath tub, and turn taps off which they've left running. You'll get used to them jumping on you with wet paws, and head butting you whilst your try to ignore them during your favourite TV moments.

Go on, you know you wanna.

Question: You're not Jason Orange of Take That fame are you?

Statement: We need pictures (of the cats) tbh.

 

[Barbie]

batties Girl friend here

How dare you call people who care for their pet cats cruel because They look after them and keep them safe from death, kidnapping and other problems such as unwanted pregnacies by keeping their cats indoors. As for cats that have been kept indoors always wanting to go out that is so untrue I have had cats most of my adult life over 16 years and they have been kept indoors for their own safety and have had happy fullfilled lives and when it was safe for them to go out and they were given the chance to do so they did not want to. Indoor cats can be just as socalised, happy and able to play and use all the skills they would outside inside. Infact as has already been said many rescuse places prefer it and in some cases wont let you adopt if you cant or wont keep the cat safe and indoors if you cant provide a safe inclosed garden which is of course preferable. Harness and lead training is done for many peddigre cats so they can still go outside and have fun but in a safe way so why should our two not get the same? From your words we cant win and are cruel but we are just caring and looking after our pets and giving them the best life. they are happy and well socialised and love people and play all day in the housewith all their toys and they have loads of them as well as each other and us for love and attention as well. Infact our current two are so well socialised and into people that when they are 9 months old they will hopefully be registered with the organisation PAT and go on visits to children and adults in hospitals etc and help them out though pet threapy work. I sugest before you make sweeping judgements about things being cruel or not you do your research and read a few cat books and talk to a few big organisations none of who think keeping cats indoors is cruel as long as they are properly stimulated.

 

[[DOD]Asprilla]

Our outside cat lived to 18 years.

Russian Blue by any chance? Mine is 20 and going strong.

When she goes though I'm looking at a Bengal as a replacement. And a Boxer dog.

 

[phykell]

Stop buying these foreign cats, BUY BRITISH!

 

[benneh]

batties Girl friend here

How dare you call people who care for their pet cats cruel because They look after them and keep them safe from death, kidnapping and other problems such as unwanted pregnacies by keeping their cats indoors. As for cats that have been kept indoors always wanting to go out that is so untrue I have had cats most of my adult life and they have been kept indoors for their own safety and have had happy fullfilled lives and when it was safe for them to go out and they were given the chance to do so they did not want to. Indoor cats can be just as socalised, happy and able to play and use all the skills they would outside inside. Infact as has already been said many rescuse places prefer it and in some cases wont let you adopt if you cant or wont keep the cat safe and indoors if you cant provide a safe inclosed garden which is of course preferable. Harness and lead training is done for many peddigre cats so they can still go outside and have fun but in a safe way so why should our two not get the same? From your words we cant win and are cruel but we are just caring and looking after our pets and giving them the best life. they are happy and well socialised and love people and play all day in the housewith all their toys and they have loads of them as well as each other and us for love and attention as well. Infact our current two are so well socialised and into people that when they are 9 months old they will hopefully be registered with the organisation PAT and go on visits to children and adults in hospitals etc and help them out though pet threapy work. I sugest before you make sweeping judgements about things being cruel or not you do your research and read a few cat books and talk to a few big organisations none of who think keeping cats indoors is cruel as long as they are properly stimulated.

You see i have this wierd affliction. It's called an opinion..

I'm not claiming to know a hell of a lot about cats, i only know what i've learned from having 4 cats. And from experience they were all far happier when allowed to roam outside, catch birds and mice and do catty things. Especially in this heat. Then, when it's cold and raining etc they like to come inside and lounge around. Your point is valid though, just don't think i'd like to spend 10 years+ under house arrest.

 

[squiffy]

batties Girl friend here

How dare you call people who care for their pet cats cruel because They look after them and keep them safe from death, kidnapping and other problems such as unwanted pregnacies by keeping their cats indoors. As for cats that have been kept indoors always wanting to go out that is so untrue I have had cats most of my adult life and they have been kept indoors for their own safety and have had happy fullfilled lives and when it was safe for them to go out and they were given the chance to do so they did not want to. Indoor cats can be just as socalised, happy and able to play and use all the skills they would outside inside. Infact as has already been said many rescuse places prefer it and in some cases wont let you adopt if you cant or wont keep the cat safe and indoors if you cant provide a safe inclosed garden which is of course preferable. Harness and lead training is done for many peddigre cats so they can still go outside and have fun but in a safe way so why should our two not get the same? From your words we cant win and are cruel but we are just caring and looking after our pets and giving them the best life. they are happy and well socialised and love people and play all day in the housewith all their toys and they have loads of them as well as each other and us for love and attention as well. Infact our current two are so well socialised and into people that when they are 9 months old they will hopefully be registered with the organisation PAT and go on visits to children and adults in hospitals etc and help them out though pet threapy work. I sugest before you make sweeping judgements about things being cruel or not you do your research and read a few cat books and talk to a few big organisations none of who think keeping cats indoors is cruel as long as they are properly stimulated.

Those cats who have remained inside for 3 years, and then suddenly introduced to the outside are probably scared to go outside. Think for yourself, how would you feel if your parents locked you inside the house for 8 years? You'll see other 8 year olds playing outside and enjoying it. You've got jigsaw puzzles to keep you amused. Just because it knows no better doesn't mean you shouldn't try and give the pet more to life. ie I could lock a monkey in a room, it doesn't know anything else outside the room so it doesn't matter.

We're not saying you don't look after the cat (ie some negligent owners who allow the house to be 2' high in filth) but you wouldn't treat a human like that...only those in life imprisionment. The animal deserves a better life.

Having toys is no substitute for allowing the cat to roam around the garden..same for zoos/wild animals, certainly safer life than in the wild, but you can't say a lion living in a 4 acre field and fed meat isn't the same as what is done naturally.

If you can't provide the animal with a suitable enviroment, don't get that pet. Some people put their own circumenstances above the pets well being. It would be wrong to have a sheep dog in a flat, those are very active dogs and should only be kept if you have a large garden/field/farm.

 

[squiffy]

Russian Blue by any chance? Mine is 20 and going strong.

When she goes though I'm looking at a Bengal as a replacement. And a Boxer dog.

Not sure of exact breed, possible half siamese half moggy. I have picture, not great (before digital cameras) He passed away about 7 years ago.

 

[Lopéz]

I really miss our Siamese Sealpoint cross. Not sure what she was crossed with, but if you can imagine a normally built shorthair cat but sporting a Siamese paintjob, well...there you go.

I'd really like another as ours was hit by a taxi years ago.

 

[squiffy]

But that is just one cat; you cannot make such a broad and sweeping statement as that.

To call cat owners with indoor cats cruel is offensive. The word implies intent of malice.

An indoor cat can enjoy a life that is as enriched as an outdoor cat and one that is usually longer.

*n

Indirectly you are being cruel, you don't mean to be, but by keeping a animal from doing what it is natural to do, you are being cruel. Tough luck if you find that offensive, that is my opinion and I'm not going to change it. ie my opinion on your boyfriend.

Every cat we've had wanted to go out. And when it wants to come it we'll let it in. If we lock a cat in a room it would have issues going outside of the house, but that is to do with his mental state, not because he knows what it is outside but doesn't fancy going outside (ie a normal cat wouldn't want to go out when it's raining)

A indoor cat will probably have a longer life, but would you rather live to 100 years living in your own home, never living ? Or living to 50 years with travelling the world, doing every extreme sport.

If you don't have time, or the family, or the location of a pet's requirements, with a busy lifestyle, and hardly ever in the house, don't get one. Is that so hard? ie if you're a single person working every day, in a terrace house next to a main road don't get a cat.

 

[Lopéz]

Indirectly you are being cruel, you don't mean to be, but by keeping a animal from doing what it is natural to do, you are being cruel. Tough luck if you find that offensive, that is my opinion and I'm not going to change it. ie my opinion on your boyfriend.

Every cat we've had wanted to go out. And when it wants to come it we'll let it in. If we lock a cat in a room it would have issues going outside of the house, but that is to do with his mental state, not because he knows what it is outside but doesn't fancy going outside (ie a normal cat wouldn't want to go out when it's raining)

A indoor cat will probably have a longer life, but would you rather live to 100 years living in your own home, never living ? Or living to 50 years with travelling the world, doing every extreme sport.

If you don't have time, or the family, or the location of a pet's requirements, with a busy lifestyle, and hardly ever in the house, don't get one. Is that so hard? ie if you're a single person working every day, in a terrace house next to a main road don't get a cat.

But going by that "keeping" any pet is cruel, because you can never be sure that it is utterly happy living with you. Are you a member of PETA?

 

[phykell]

Who in Britain doesn't live near busy roads these days (they don't have to be "main" ones? Not many I'll bet. I'm not about to get a typical ginger tom and keep him cooped up in a house but then my cats aren't typical ginger toms either. I've no doubt they'd be happier running round on a farm, but I don't have a farm, it doesn't mean I'm cruel does it? There are thousands of cats being experimented on for no good reason, being tortured for no good reason, being skinned and boiled alive and eaten, left out in the freezing cold all night by owners who couldn't give a damn. All you people who say others are cruel need to get some sense of perspective! If you feel so strongly about what you're saying and so morally superior how about you show it in other ways? How many of you support animal charities? How many of you do volunteer work for animal welfare? How many of you would willingly pick up a hurt cat at the side of the road and happily pay for any vet's fees? I'll say it again, get some perspective will you? Incidentally, only this morning I had to go next door to tell them my wife had seen their cat just round the corner with its head caved in by a car, and no, it wasn't on a "main" road...

 

[squiffy]

But going by that "keeping" any pet is cruel, because you can never be sure that it is utterly happy living with you. Are you a member of PETA?

One of the cats chose us, it belonged to a family across the road, but they were only in a few hours a day. After a while it used to wait for us, and sit outside our house, sleep in our garden, and never around theres. So he chose to live elseware, probably because we cared for him more. Therefore cats have free will. No I'm not a member of PETA (total nutjobs btw)

If a housecat escaped and chose to live with us as well, and learnt he could go in and out as he pleases...I wonder if he'll go back to the original owner just to be locked up in the house again? I doubt it. You can't match outside random activities to inside house games, ie a cat might wander across a pond and start splashing away at the fish.

Is a exercise bike as enjoyable as a real road bike riding along country lanes? No.

 

[danza]

Well, rather than start up a new thread, I think I'll pimp my kittens here instead. Sorry for the hijack!

Leo (Tabby) & Millie (Tabby & White)

Asleep in their favourite place-the washing basket (sadly this is no more for now, as they have fleas, dang)!...

Awake...

Leo when we first got him (9 weeks old)...

Millie dozing on the sofa...

Millie was probably the runt of the litter, and is about 1/3 smaller and lighter than Leo. They're incredibly cute, mischievious and into everything they can get into!

 

[benneh]

But going by that "keeping" any pet is cruel, because you can never be sure that it is utterly happy living with you. Are you a member of PETA?

ALF dude. Not an active member (in the truest sense), but definately a supporter.

 

[benneh]

Millie was probably the runt of the litter, and is about 1/3 smaller and lighter than Leo. They're incredibly cute, mischievious and into everything they can get into!

Hehe how wierd, i have a Leo and a Millie too .

 

[VeNT]

Stop buying these foreign cats, BUY BRITISH!

my godmother has one of those, called smokie, he's def, lovly cat, highly reccomended as he's got a lovly temper and is realy relaxed

 

[danza]

Hehe how wierd, i have a Leo and a Millie too .

Blimey!

They were almost called Stop & Hammertime, but the wife was having none of it!

 

[THEAVFCKID]

We have a pair of Bengals (Brothers same litter). We have had cats before but these are totally different. They are great fun but very demanding at times. They have a good sense of time as at 5.00am every morning they come to wake us up. My wife gets up most mornings around 5 to feed them as they are very vocal and very physical in getting there way. We often have lenghthy conversations most days with them. They love water, most mornings I have to wash and shave with them sitting on the side or in the wash basin. I can be in the shower and they will get in. Came home once and thought a pipe had burst as we could hear water running. Went in the bathroom and the taps in the bath were turned on. We have a pool in the garden with fish and they sit in the waterfall for hours reaching into the water trying to catch a fish. Tey are arond nine months old now. I would recommend them to anyone.