BF Hardline Visceral Games

yes the ronku program gives extra cash for great reviews. how can they say the truth.they will be removed from that no more exclusives.

for eg jackfrogs does a video on this exclusive hes probably gunna get £1000-1500 on adsense alone thats per video on it. is he going to lose that each video by saying in first game its crap or just say yes its amazing give me some more ea cash please? haha

i always remember what a dev said to me once

do as your told and you can have what you want :p

kinda sums it up tbh with game access. stroke the shaft get what you want :D


we all know deep down why visc were brought in to do this. bf4 was a mess same stuff all over again dice/ea can say wooah we arnt doing this yes dice are doing mp with visc even though they said they wouldn't do anything before bf4 is fixed.
 
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oh give over Raven. Take your verbal diarrhea elsewhere. I'm no apologist - i'm a realist.

And who said anything about the youtubers making games ? they aren't making them. They're giving feedback on behalf of the community as to what will and won't work. Visceral can chose to ignore that feedback as they wish. It may make no difference at all - the game can and likely still will be poor, but developers don't set out to make crap games.

As for the hype over BF4 - BF4 is still a decent game. Its biggest problems on release were the game crashing - something you would easily forgive if you attended a pre release play test session using beta code. And as for the hit registration - they didn't experience any of the lag / hit reg issues that we did because EA set them all up on a LAN server that was lag free at the play test.

Jackfrags for example has now been using very lose wording when doing game reviews, because he got so much hate over the "revelation" that EA invited them to attend the playtest and told them to make some videos showcasing leveloution.

yes the ronku program gives extra cash for great reviews. how can they say the truth.they will be removed from that no more exclusives.

for eg jackfrogs does a video on this exclusive hes probably gunna get £1000-1500 on adsense alone thats per video on it. is he going to lose that each video by saying in first game its crap or just say yes its amazing give me some more ea cash please? haha

i always remember what a dev said to me once

do as your told and you can have what you want :p

kinda sums it up tbh with game access. stroke the shaft get what you want :D


we all know deep down why visc were brought in to do this. bf4 was a mess same stuff all over again dice/ea can say wooah we arnt doing this yes dice are doing mp with visc even though they said they wouldn't do anything before bf4 is fixed.


Visceral were brought in to replace Danger Close. Their being brought in had nothing to do with the sucess or failure of BF4. We had a thread on this last year when they announced medal of honor was cancelled and they were looking for another developer to replace them and produce "another" battlefield game. EA have to have their FPS shooter every october to compete with COD, and you can't make a game in 12 months. So they were always going to get another developer involved.
 
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youtubers shouldn't be doing game fixes or suggesting them unless they are testing properly on them. by that i mean base level almost job like not a casual hr at it here and there .

also if serious about making the fps titles great again they need to listen to the top tier of competitive people not joe im on xbox pad simpson on hardcore :p

the fact they do listen to those kind of players mean its for the money and the mass audience which translates to a poor game for anyone outside of the bracket which is pc enthusiasts :(
 
of course EA is going for the mass market

When you're answering to share holders that's the only battlefield game you're ever going to get. They aren't interested in competitive play, because there isn't much money in it. The developers would like to be, that's why you get Matros saying BF4 will be the biggest competitive game out there, because he'd like it to be. But EA aren't interested.

The only way that battlefield will stop trying to compete for the mass audience and become a game just for the die hard battlefield enthusiasts is when DICE and the Battlefield IP get sold on to somebody else. Which is never going to happen. EA would rather let the IP die than sell it.

Look at medal of honor.
 
they could keep the game as it is and let modders do the work.

promod made cod 4 a comp monster.

promod was being worked on for bf3.

so they don't have to totally break the game down but if they would let modders tweak for pc only then they would save most of the flack and let the enthusiasts get what they want.
 
mods = lost money for EA

They will never let that happen either. Because they know there would be decent mods out there which they would never see a penny of and would reduce DLC sales.

Who wants to buy dragons teeth when somebody releases a remake of the old BF3 close quarters DLC as a mod for example ?
 
I'm really unnecessarily angry about this game. It looks fun, but it really isn't a Battlefield game and no doubt it'll be buggy as **** when it comes out. I wish they'd just stick the development team on to bug fixing BF4. I still can't even join a game without getting a black screen. It's just not cricket.
 
I'm really unnecessarily angry about this game. It looks fun, but it really isn't a Battlefield game and no doubt it'll be buggy as **** when it comes out. I wish they'd just stick the development team on to bug fixing BF4. I still can't even join a game without getting a black screen. It's just not cricket.

Is that a widespread problem? Can't say I've heard of many with that. Regardless whilst I loathe EA BF4 CTE is definitely a step in the right direction.
 
I'm really unnecessarily angry about this game. It looks fun, but it really isn't a Battlefield game and no doubt it'll be buggy as **** when it comes out. I wish they'd just stick the development team on to bug fixing BF4. I still can't even join a game without getting a black screen. It's just not cricket.

Me too. I hate DICE now. And I mean ****ing hate them!
 
Dice are helping on mp. dont be fooled.

"Visceral is leading the development of Hardline on both SP and MP, with collaboration from DICE."
 
I'm really unnecessarily angry about this game. It looks fun, but it really isn't a Battlefield game and no doubt it'll be buggy as **** when it comes out. I wish they'd just stick the development team on to bug fixing BF4. I still can't even join a game without getting a black screen. It's just not cricket.

Its a different development team. It's been confirmed that this is mostly visceral with "collaboration" from DICE.

The problem with DICE is their main dev team is working on Star Wars battlefront due out in Oct 2015. They are also reportedly working on a new mirrors edge game, at the same time as having devs bug fixing BF4 and also Dice LA working on the new DLC due out later this year for BF4.

So your point about DICE holding back developers from moving on to a new project still stands. Most of the BF4 devs have now been moved onto a new project and there is only a small pool of developers left providing support for BF4.

Trouble is, this is out of DICE's hands. EA dictates that battlefront will have to be out in 2015. So DICE can't chose to push back the star wars release date and focus on BF4, for the same reason they couldn't push BF4 back when they obviously should have.
 
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Collaboration will be "Hey DICE this doesn't work on the engine, wat do" DICE: "Read the documentation", or "We'll fix that in 5 patches don't you worry!"

From the trailer I think it looks pretty good and I've got nothing against the BF series :D It is definitely a copy paste job in terms of gameplay with a lot of tweaking going on in the backend but with a lot of new assets and environments it should be good!

If you are done with BF4 then seriously don't get Hardline, don't follow the game at all just let it exist and focus your interest in another title as the game is going to feel like a copy/paste job with a better SP experience (I hope!!!).
 
You do realise this game has nothing to do with DICE..... right?

OMG! Really??????

It's based on Frostbite 3. It'll have the same underlying code. You can see the same ****ing assets being used. So it'll have the same problems. Awful hitreg. Poor collisions. Crashes.

You people drive me mad. Buy your game. Pre-order at full price. And cry and moan when it turns out to be a pile of ****!!!!!
 
OMG! Really??????

It's based on Frostbite 3. It'll have the same underlying code. You can see the same ****ing assets being used. So it'll have the same problems. Awful hitreg. Poor collisions. Crashes.

You people drive me mad. Buy your game. Pre-order at full price. And cry and moan when it turns out to be a pile of ****!!!!!

+1
 
OMG! Really??????

It's based on Frostbite 3. It'll have the same underlying code. You can see the same ****ing assets being used. So it'll have the same problems. Awful hitreg. Poor collisions. Crashes.

You people drive me mad. Buy your game. Pre-order at full price. And cry and moan when it turns out to be a pile of ****!!!!!

Cool off fella, your going to give yourself a migraine...

I have no plans to buy this game. All I was pointing out is that DICE are not responsible for the game, yet all the hate was directed at them. Frostbite3 has it's problems but personally I think they come as a result of EA forcing rushed deadlines on them. DICE have released very good games in the past.
 
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