BFG 8800 GTX/GTS arriving at OcUK soon and some images for you all!!

fornowagain · 27 Oct 2006 at 15:38

Translated source.

On the second chip, Ramdac.

LoadsaMoney · 27 Oct 2006 at 15:40

so the GTS only needs 1x PCI-E power connector.

easyrider · 27 Oct 2006 at 15:41

rafster said:
Most people's basis is for synthetic benchmarks. Maybe it's because I don't have much time to game (have other things which are more important, like my partner, teaching and postgraduate degree), but I do not see any point whatsoever in getting a card so early. Like the others mentioned, you can get more than acceptable performance for far less than £500, and secondly the refreshes will be better to buy for DX10 etc.

Some people have the time to game and want the fastest card.You say you can get more than acceptable performance for far less than £500? Some people do not want acceptable perfromance they want cutting edge performance.

Some people want the fastest car,Cars are not my thing.I don't understand anyone paying 100 grand on a car when I can get the same performance for 20 grand.

londonbairn · 27 Oct 2006 at 15:41

LoadsaMoney said:
Of course DX10 is all everyone is interested in, you hear ppl banging on saying 'ive had my 6/8/7800/x1800 etc... for a while now, so ill be getting one of these, not for DX10 etc...', yes sure its not for DX10, if you wanted a few more frames in DX9 you would have got rid of your 7800 for a 7900, or your x800 card for an x1800 etc..., the next model up, as they boost DX9 as well just like the G80 so whats the diff, oh yeah its DX10, thats the diff isnt it, so no ones buying em for DX10 then eh.

I am kind of glad I am not into gaming as I used to be, pointless wasting of money and a lot of eWilly. Maybe the 8800GTX will make FM2007 load 2 frames faster or something.

Some people have the time to game and want the fastest card.You say you can get more than acceptable performance for far less than £500? Some people do not want acceptable perfromance they want cutting edge performance.

Some people want the fastest car,Cars are not my thing.I don't understand anyone paying 100 grand on a car when I can get the same performance for 20 grand.

But a prestige car offers good resale value, and in terms of its basic use, is more meaningful than buying a GFX card (status? pleasure to drive?). Being at the cutting edge is kinda pointless if the cutting edge offers no real incentive over current tech in current times. All I can see is to boast that you have it...

Time to go back to using my PC time for meaningful things; research.

easyrider · 27 Oct 2006 at 15:44

rafster said:
I am kind of glad I am not into gaming as I used to be, pointless wasting of money and a lot of eWilly. Maybe the 8800GTX will make FM2007 load 2 frames faster or something.

Time to go back to using my PC time for meaningful things; research.

Your posts are very thinly based considering you are doing a degree.

Gaming may not be your thing.

I for one do not care.Just like you should not care if people want to spend their money on the latest tech.

londonbairn · 27 Oct 2006 at 15:45

easyrider said:
Your posts are very thinly based considering you are doing a degree.

Gaming may not be your thing.

I for one do not care.Just like you should not care if people want to spend their money on the latest tech.

You need to realise that everyone doesn't agree with you on here, and when someone offers a differing opinion to stop rubbishing them, and changing your stance constantly. You say you do not care, yet you will spend the best part of a day trying to convince everyone why you're right and everyone else is wrong.

/back to lurking.

easyrider · 27 Oct 2006 at 15:49

rafster said:
I am kind of glad I am not into gaming as I used to be, pointless wasting of money and a lot of eWilly. Maybe the 8800GTX will make FM2007 load 2 frames faster or something.

But a prestige car offers good resale value, and in terms of its basic use, is more meaningful than buying a GFX card (status? pleasure to drive?). Being at the cutting edge is kinda pointless if the cutting edge offers no real incentive over current tech in current times. All I can see is to boast that you have it...

Time to go back to using my PC time for meaningful things; research.

What has meaning got to do with anything?

How people decode meaning is up to them.

You say:"All I can see is to boast that you have it..."

And in the same sentance you say getting an expensive car offers Status!

So people dont get a flash car to willy wave?

Your priceless.

Durzel · 27 Oct 2006 at 15:50

easyrider said:
Some people have the time to game and want the fastest card.You say you can get more than acceptable performance for far less than £500? Some people do not want acceptable perfromance they want cutting edge performance.

Some people want the fastest car,Cars are not my thing.I don't understand anyone paying 100 grand on a car when I can get the same performance for 20 grand.

Cars are not a good analogy. People buy expensive cars for many more reasons than just performance. You could have a car that is as fast as most Ferraris, but does that make them equivalent to Ferraris in appeal, prestige, etc? No.

CPUs, GPUs and other hardware on the other hand - if they are as fast as something that costs more, then they are identical in every respect. You don't wear GPUs on your sleeve when you go out clubbing, there's no cachet in owning the latest model when it doesn't offer better performance as the (much) cheaper model - unless you're trying to impress other forumites, which is a pretty sad state of affairs if that's the case.

I know "jealousy" is the obvious (weak) defence as a counter-argument in this debate, but the bottom line is - spending £500 on this generation of cards which will be superceded by something a lot better once ATI & Nvidia properly iron out the yields, performance, etc is foolhardy - it doesn't matter if £500 is your life savings, or half your weekly take-home wage.

londonbairn · 27 Oct 2006 at 15:52

easyrider said:
What has meaning got to do with anything?

How people decode meaning is up to them.

You say:"All I can see is to boast that you have it..."

And in the same sentance you say getting an expensive car offers Status!

So people dont get a flash car to willy wave?

Your priceless.

A GFX card won't offer you REAL LIFE priveledges that a nice car will. Try owning one and see.

I thank you for that pleasure, seeing as most the "drama" on this board is based around you, and makes it a great read when I am bored.

easyrider · 27 Oct 2006 at 15:52

rafster said:
You need to realise that everyone doesn't agree with you on here, and when someone offers a differing opinion to stop rubbishing them, and changing your stance constantly. You say you do not care, yet you will spend the best part of a day trying to convince everyone why you're right and everyone else is wrong.

/back to lurking.

My opinion is let poeple purchase what they want.

You rubbish people not me coming out with comments like playing games has no meaning.

I'm not asking anyone to agree with me.
I'm not asking anyone to go out and get this card.

The point is,its choice.

Its that simple

easyrider · 27 Oct 2006 at 15:55

rafster said:
A GFX card won't offer you REAL LIFE priveledges that a nice car will. Try owning one and see.

I thank you for that pleasure, seeing as most the "drama" on this board is based around you, and makes it a great read when I am bored.

Who mentioned anything about the 8800 GTX offering real world privileges.

What does that mean?
It has nothing to do with this thread.

Darkwave · 27 Oct 2006 at 15:56

rafster said:
I thank you for that pleasure, seeing as most the "drama" on this board is based around you, and makes it a great read when I am bored.

And I thought it was based around me today.

Jabbs · 27 Oct 2006 at 16:21

I don't think those 3dmark scores are that bad you goto remember its only 1 card, not 2 on a board like a 7950gx2 or a sli/crossfire rig, they better than i expected of a single card.

krooton · 27 Oct 2006 at 16:27

Perhaps getting this card will get people for cyber-tang?

Still a lot to pay for some tang

ugly ferret · 27 Oct 2006 at 16:40

Did people make as much of a fuss when the x1900xtx came out for a similar price when it it launched? My memory is a bit hazy but I seem to remember nothing but praise for ati's new card. :confused:

sunlitsix · 27 Oct 2006 at 16:43

fornowagain said:
On the second chip, Ramdac.

so the green chip weve been guessing as been for physics/audio/HDCP etc is actually a ramdac controller?

Darkwave · 27 Oct 2006 at 16:49

ugly ferret said:
Did people make as much of a fuss when the x1900xtx came out for a similar price when it it launched? My memory is a bit hazy but I seem to remember nothing but praise for ati's new card.

Yes they did, and they made the same fuss when the X1950XT-X came out (including myself.)

Let's not try to put an Nvidia vs. ATI spin on this, it's already out of control without the fanboy crap.

jimmyjimmyo · 27 Oct 2006 at 16:51

I'm just building a new rig and I am waiting for a 24" BenQ to come into stock before OCUK ship my order I was going to go X1900xt crossfire (it's as fast if not a little faster) but tbh I think I like the look of this new nvidia card and it offers me an upgrade path to SLI at a later date (once the 2nd card drops in price in 12 months or so) obviously I am trying to build a PC to last a while so I guess this is the best bet?.

I have been using ATI for a while so what can I expect from this change in terms of image quality. Is are there any negative impact on visual quality using Nvidia (last card I had from them was a geforce 2)?

Durzel · 27 Oct 2006 at 17:11

jimmyjimmyo said:
I'm just building a new rig and I am waiting for a 24" BenQ to come into stock before OCUK ship my order I was going to go X1900xt crossfire (it's as fast if not a little faster) but tbh I think I like the look of this new nvidia card and it offers me an upgrade path to SLI at a later date (once the 2nd card drops in price in 12 months or so) obviously I am trying to build a PC to last a while so I guess this is the best bet?.

I have been using ATI for a while so what can I expect from this change in terms of image quality. Is are there any negative impact on visual quality using Nvidia (last card I had from them was a geforce 2)?

If you were going to buy Crossfire anyway right now then I suppose the 8800GTX is in principal the better option for the reasons you've mentioned.

I guess it would depend really on whether or not X1950/X1900 cards will be affected significantly once 8800GTX is actually launched, because at the moment the cost is roughly the same.

Bear in mind though that you could Quad SLI two 7950GX2s in the same fashion and probably achieve the same results (assuming Nvidia sort the drivers out)

rippling · 27 Oct 2006 at 17:13

Durzel said:
If you were going to buy Crossfire anyway right now then I suppose the 8800GTX is in principal the better option for the reasons you've mentioned.

I guess it would depend really on whether or not X1950/X1900 cards will be affected significantly once 8800GTX is actually launched, because at the moment the cost is roughly the same.

Bear in mind though that you could Quad SLI two 7950GX2s in the same fashion and probably achieve the same results (assuming Nvidia sort the drivers out)

you dont need to crossfire 2 x1950 xt`s or x1900 xtx
you can crossfire 2x 1950 pro`s