BFG 8800 GTX/GTS arriving at OcUK soon and some images for you all!!

[rippling]

I said some not all:

Also the reason that someone would get a G80 is to have SLI performance with a single card solution.This will allow SLI 8800 down the line.

Also a x1900 xtx will not cut it on a 24" Dell
A G80 will...

I can give you more reasons but I'm afraid I don't have time to spoon feed you

you can pick up 2 x1900xtx for about £200 each now , sli on g80 ? lol well you will need another £300 to £400 for a 1KW powersupply lol

dont worry about the spoon feeding m8 , i am using a straw at present

 

[easyrider]

you can pick up 2 x1900xtx for about £200 each now

Why on earth would anyone do that?

Spend 400 quid on x fire x1900xtx?

spend 100 quid more for a single card and future DX 10 games.

That arguement holds no water whatsoever.

What would use more power two x1900xtx's or a single G80?

LMAO

I would quit now before you dig a deeper hole lol

 

[Darkwave]

BTW you keep going on about the step up program , you seem very sure that evga are going to have the card on there step up program?

The 8800GTX will be on the step-up programme, it's about to become Nvidia's flagship product.

 

[Tooks]

Ulfhedjinn, I was really referring to the bit where you stated the only sensible way to buy into the G80 was to have purchased an EVGA GX2, and then to upgrade to a G80 via the step up program, which IIRC you have to do within 6 months. This would still cost £500 plus... Hence my question.

Of course I'm not saying your X1900 XT won't last for more than 6 months! Of course it will! Look at me, my 7800GT still plays all the games I want currently, but I don't like to slip too far behind!!

Whether you're right on this one we really won't be able to tell for a few months yet will we?! So, best not waste any more time arguing about it eh?

My main bone of contention with what you've said is that people are 'chumps' for buying a G80 now. I think you owe folks an apology!

 

[rippling]

Why on earth would anyone do that?

Spend 400 quid on x fire x1900xtx?

spend 100 quid more for a single card and future DX 10 games.

That arguement holds no water whatsoever.

What would use more power two x1900xtx's or a single G80?

LMAO

I would quit now before you dig a deeper hole lol

a single g80! hahahaha
also

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- £252 and will destroy all dx9 games
why are you spouting about dx10 now? you said in earlier threads dx10 isnt a selling point on the g80 and its is usless atm

 

[Duff-Man]

MY point was that in current games YOU WONT SEE ANY DIFFERENCE! why is that so hard to under stand?
also people dont get the lastest hardware for bragging rights ....rubbish
if you arnt getting a g80 for bragging about 3d mark , what else will you use it for ?

Oh, come off it...

Of course you'll see a difference in performance. I'm holding off playing through my collection of various FPSs until I get the new card. FEAR, HL2:ep1, far cry, X3, Quake4, - I've played through them all on my old s939 setup with SLI 7800GTXs, and there were plenty of times where the framerate dipped. Perhaps you don't notice the framerate drops, but I do and I like consistently smooth gameplay (even slight framerate dips kind of break the illusion). I'm looking forward to more consistent performance when I go through them again at 1920x1440, with 4x AA this time. If I have better performance in upcoming games, then that's a bonus too.

If you need to imagine that people buy high end cards only to run 3d mark, or to post about it on forums and make themselves feel good then go right ahead. Just know that you're deluding yourself. I buy to run games quicker, and I'd wager that 95% of other people are the same...

 

[easyrider]

why are you spouting about dx10 now? you said in earlier threads dx10 isnt a selling point on the g80 and its is usless atm

I'm not spouting about DX 10.

Its not the selling point of the G80.

But its nice to have DX 10 features in ones inventory when needed.

 

[FrankJH]

Aye and the funny thing is I will be happily playing those games on an X1900XT, never mind a 7950GX2.

Money in the bank.

Exactly what I was thinking!!!!

Fine if you have a huge 30" Dell monitor or something with uber resolution then potentially the G80 is worth huge amounts of £££, but I have a Dell 2407 working brilliantly with a "mere" X1900XT (master as it happens) not really any need to go crossfire imo

Unless I come into a lot of cash before then I think I will wait at least until the middle of next year before investing in Vista and DX10 card - I may try vista demo on my shuttle but at present no real reason even to do that

 

[Tooks]

Or, like you said, you can always wait until the 8800GTX drops in price (which it will in due time, and like a stone.)

Is this another example of you predicting the future correctly? You know, the price of computer hardware coming down over time?...

 

[rippling]

Oh, come off it...

Of course you'll see a difference in performance. I'm holding off playing through my collection of various FPSs until I get the new card. FEAR, HL2:ep1, far cry, X3, Quake4, - I've played through them all on my old s939 setup with SLI 7800GTXs, and there were plenty of times where the framerate dipped. Perhaps you don't notice the framerate drops, but I do and I like consistently smooth gameplay (even slight framerate dips kind of break the illusion). I'm looking forward to more consistent performance when I go through them again at 1920x1440, with 4x AA this time. If I have better performance in upcoming games, then that's a bonus too.

If you need to imagine that people buy high end cards only to run 3d mark, or to post about it on forums and make themselves feel good then go right ahead. Just know that you're deluding yourself. I buy to run games quicker, and I'd wager that 95% of other people are the same...

if you were playing on an old s939 , your cpu would have been the bottle neck problem with the games , not the sli i hope all of the people thinking of getting the g80 has the cpu to back it up?

 

[Darkwave]

Ulfhedjinn, I was really referring to the bit where you stated the only sensible way to buy into the G80 was to have purchased an EVGA GX2, and then to upgrade to a G80 via the step up program, which IIRC you have to do within 6 months. This would still cost £500 plus... Hence my question.

The eVGA step-up programme is 90 days, so it's more like three months, but through the eVGA step-up programme easyrider is getting his 8800GTX for about £150. If he used a lesser graphics card to do it, it would still cost a fortune less than £500.

I would call that the best way to get one, yes.

My main bone of contention with what you've said is that people are 'chumps' for buying a G80 now. I think you owe folks an apology!

Why? The only one even slightly upset about that is you, and I stand by what I said regadless.

Is this another example of you predicting the future correctly? You know, the price of computer hardware coming down over time?...

I've done a good job of predicting how long new technologies take to spread, and I often do a good job of predicting when graphics cards will drop in price. That's why I have never spent more than £200 on a graphics card.

I was actually having this very discussion with someone the other day. I am considering getting into buying and selling Nvidia, ATI, AMD, Intel, etc. shares.

 

[rippling]

I'm not spouting about DX 10.

Its not the selling point of the G80.

But its nice to have DX 10 features in ones inventory when needed.

by the time you need dx10 freatures m8 you will have bought the g90 lol

 

[Cyber-Mav]

by the time you need dx10 freatures m8 you will have bought the g90 lol

i think your wrong on that one.

remember dx10 is not just an added feature like sm3.0 was. its a whole new api and its gonna have a bigger difference than dx8 - dx9 was.

 

[Darkwave]

i think your wrong on that one.

remember dx10 is not just an added feature like sm3.0 was. its a whole new api and its gonna have a bigger difference than dx8 - dx9 was.

Sounds exactly like what the SM3 crew were saying yonks ago, that SM3 was nothing like SM2 and that all the developers would be jumping on it so everyone better buy a 6600/6800 series graphics card.

That didn't turn out well for them, I even remember someone spammed Pacific Fighters screenshots on a daily basis and it's still barely being used.

 

[rippling]

i think your wrong on that one.

remember dx10 is not just an added feature like sm3.0 was. its a whole new api and its gonna have a bigger difference than dx8 - dx9 was.

but by the time vista and the games are out for it that really take advantage of dx10 easy will have sold his G**** for A G**** lol

 

[Nelly]

That didn't turn out well for them, I even remember someone spammed Pacific Fighters screenshots on a daily basis and it's still barely being used.

Most likely to the fact people havent got a clue how to fly the planes!

 

[Tooks]

Not upset at all my friend, just having a bit of fun, hence the smiley!

Whichever way you look at it, the step up program costs you the same! If you'd had a cheaper card, then the step up cost would be more?

EVGA aren't really giving you something for nothing, they're a business, not a charity.

So, I put it to you sir, that buying a G80 cash, now, is actually no more expensive than buying one through a step up program in the form of £xxx pounds now, and £xxx pounds a maximum of 90 days later!

So, if it's worth having through the step up program, it must be worth having for the cost now?!

Come on, answer the charge sir! You have offended my sensibilities!

<polishes pistols and swords ready for the duel tomorrow morning>

 

[LEUVEN]

I think what people are peeved about is that these are going to be stupidly expensive for a little while and for prices of £400-£500 you expect something with at least a 1/3rd performance increase over what you have.

Easyrider is lucky because he has the step-up programme, but can you imagine someone who didn't going from a 7950GX2 to an 8800GTX? They would be gutted beyond belief. Easyrider already said he wouldn't touch one of these if it wasn't working out cheaper for him.

I'm also in the "step-up" boat and would deffinetely not be chucking £500 at a GPU so soon after an upgrade, especially before Christmas too.
Now there are some benchmarks released I'm begining to have second thoughts, but considering the step-up and performance increase of SLi then I might as well get them and wait for a few years (if possible) to upgrade , you know..........after the 8800GTX 1GBRAM and 8900GT, 8900GTX are all released
within the next few months, bringing the price of the 768MB 8800GTX down to around half price.

It could be worse I suppose.....spending £250 on a Voodoo 5 5500 in 1999

 

[rippling]

Come on, answer the charge sir! You have offended my sensibilities!

One fine day in the middle of the night , 2 dead men began to fight , back to back they faced each other , drew their swords and shot each other

 

[Burumbar]

Aye and the funny thing is I will be happily playing those games on an X1900XT, never mind a 7950GX2.

If you're happy with that then thats fine, if someone else is not then thats fine too. Don't see why you are making such a song and dance about it tbh.

Your GX2 argument is also not relevant. Its a single slot solution but still with multi slot issues. Its the same argument all of the ATI fanboys were using to defend the 1950 when it was released and wasn't quicker than the GX2 anyway. I'd rather the single slot card that didn't involve any multi GPU shinanigans any day.

DX10 is designed purposely to make game development easier, quicker with better FPS and better visuals. Will it do this? Who knows, but if it does then it'll be a required, not a, can make do without. M$ unfortunately will see to this. To compare it to other tech you have mentioned maybe means your opinions are not as great as you think.

This seems to happen whenever new tech comes out though. A few suspects always seem to have something to say about what people should and shouldn't spend their money on. Why? It effects them in exactly no way except maybe their ego. Maybe enthusiast means something different to different people. To me its someone who likes to try the new and untried first even if their is a cost attached. Its their loot afterall.