BFG 8800 GTX/GTS arriving at OcUK soon and some images for you all!!

rippling · 26 Oct 2006 at 20:43

if the 8800 was 350 i would buy one no problem ...... but i cant justify the price vs performance atm unless new drivers deliver a boost in performance.....

smit101 · 26 Oct 2006 at 20:46

I really do LMAO at people who consider current gen hardware such as the 7950gx2 and the X1900's to be old tech and dead in the water etc,just because a new GPU is around the corner.

The X1900's and GX2's will not suddenly self destruct just 'cos Nvidia have a new product set for release,you suckers!

BANG! ouch! what the hell just happened to me graphics card!

Darkwave · 26 Oct 2006 at 20:53

mark1 said:
If they're gonna fake the picture, they could at least give it more realistic DVI connectors. I mean yellow connectors?! Come on!

me awaits for the angered response from Ulfhedjinn

LOL!

smit101 said:
I really do LMAO at people who consider current gen hardware such as the 7950gx2 and the X1900's to be old tech and dead in the water etc,just because a new GPU is around the corner.

Likewise. When someone says "old tech" and "dead in the water" to me I think of cards like my old Hercules 3D Prophet 4000XT that can't even play games anymore, never mind in any respectable level of detail.

Cards like the Geforce7 series and Radeon X1K series are all but old, that goes for the 7800 and X1800 series too.

rippling · 26 Oct 2006 at 20:59

gibbo states that there are no gx2 etc in circulation and once there gone there gone , why has nvidia stipped making this card now? and others ,
if i go for 2 x1950pro`s , thats should be fine , there not "old tech" there brand new cores! lol makes me chuckle
and when i come to sale them to upgrade once it is worth it i have 2 cards to sell in the bay !

Macro · 26 Oct 2006 at 20:59

Ulfhedjinn said:
Dead end technology? Hahahahahahahha.

Hello! Hello McFly. *Knocks on Athanor's head.* McFly!

Yeah, how many games are coming out with DirectX 10 in 2007? I can count that on one hand. How many of those games will require Vista to run in DirectX 10 mode? All of them. How many of those games are going to have DirectX 8/9 support? Oh yeah, all of them (with the unconfirmed exception of Alan Wake.)

So, yeah, how is DirectX 9 dead-end technology again? Are you one of these people who thought that everyone should rush out and buy a 6600 or 6800 as soon as Shader Model 3.0 was announced? Because look at Shader Model 3.0 today, only a handful of games even support it and only two games require it.

Good luck with that "false economy." While you are buying £500 graphics cards for 2000 more 3D Marks and DirectX 10 support, someone with a GX2 will be happily playing all the same games in DirectX 9 with 2000 marks less for £200-£300 or so.

That is why I would buy "dead-end technology."

The only person who's doing the 8800GTX thing right is easyrider. It's probably going to cost him £150 max for it, anyone buying an 8800GTX outside of his method (eVGA step-up) is frankly a chump.

And you see that's why you don't get it do you... You have a rant without reading the post.

The whole point was that the new card may cost £100 - £150 more now but you'll get £100 to £150 more for it when you trade up in 1yr/18months time so in effect it's cost the same but in the mean time you've had access to a faster single GPU solution and DX10 etc (assuming you're talking about someone who is looking to buy a new card now as I was).

Unless you're suggesting you'll never upgrade your card.

Gibbo has said it's £150 more expensive than the cheaper GX2s so you're just being inaccurate with the £500 card Vs £200-£300. Are there GX2s for £200 of are you making that up for dramatic effect. We know it'll only be £150 give (or take) a little depending on the GX2 model.

If you already own one then unless you have an easy / cheap way to upgrade then maybe it's not worth worrying about. However if you are upgrading from a low end card to something like a GX2 now you're just investing in dead technology and it's false economy (assuming you can afford it in the first place of course).

Sheeshh.... some people should read before they think they get all clever with the sarcy "McFly" twaddle. There's some fanatical/bitter/angry people on here who seem to be out to just try to spoil the fun of those that can afford the new cards and are looking forward to it. Maybe they just don't like not having braggin' rights about how l337 their GPU is any more

Cyber-Mav · 26 Oct 2006 at 20:59

i thought those yellow dvi connectors were dust covers over them.

Kezmo · 26 Oct 2006 at 21:03

What games are coming out before the next refresh of cards i.e RD600 that'll warrant getting this new nvidia card ?

rippling · 26 Oct 2006 at 21:04

Kezmo said:
What games are coming out before the next refresh of cards i.e RD600 that'll warrant getting this new nvidia card ?

none lol

Macro · 26 Oct 2006 at 21:06

rippling said:
none lol

Depends what card and screen res you're currently using really doesn't it...

clone · 26 Oct 2006 at 21:09

Easyrider thing`s dont look good on the step up program, i was going to do the same as you and get the 880GTX,so i emailed support and got this response.

"Products known to have limited availability will not be made available to the Step-Up Program. (Limited availability determined by EVGA production.)" Thanks! EVGA Tech Support.

xsnv · 26 Oct 2006 at 21:10

clone said:
Easyrider thing`s dont look good on the step up program, i was going to do the same as you and get the 880GTX,so i emailed support and got this response.

"Products known to have limited availability will not be made available to the Step-Up Program. (Limited availability determined by EVGA production.)" Thanks! EVGA Tech Support.

Kezmo · 26 Oct 2006 at 21:10

Athanor said:
Depends what card and screen res you're currently using really doesn't it...

It does ? cant the x1900 run pretty much everything right now at high ress or ?

FreeStream · 26 Oct 2006 at 21:14

shrek2 said:
Jesus. You are off moaning like its your money that people are spending. I will be buying two 8800 gts in sli and i'll bet you that will be powerful enough to play dx10 at a decent res. You obviously wouldnt be buying the card but I will. If that makes you angry then thats your business.

Well if you want to waste money then go ahead. Im just trying to stop people wasting money if they think it will do for DX10, which it most probably won't. Even if it did, wow 5 games. Big whoop! ALl of which work in DX9...

£1200 just on graphics card wow, I built my PC for that.

Ill just spend £300 in 12 months time and have something that beat your two 8800s while spending £700 less.

Whatever way you put it, buying high end cards at release is a waste of money. Period. Esp at £500. Its a rip off :mad:

I bought a 6800U and a X1900XT at launch and I will never, ever buy a gfx card at launch again. I could have waited 3 weeks and got a XTX and saved myself £20.

Macro · 26 Oct 2006 at 21:19

Kezmo said:
It does ? cant the x1900 run pretty much everything right now at high ress or ?

FSX 1900x1200 = low detail or 10fps on any card out now

Darkwave · 26 Oct 2006 at 21:21

Athanor said:
The whole point was that the new card may cost £100 - £150 more now but you'll get £100 to £150 more for it when you trade up in 1yr/18months time so in effect it's cost the same but in the mean time you've had access to a faster single GPU solution and DX10 etc (assuming you're talking about someone who is looking to buy a new card now as I was).

Erm, if you use a step-up to buy an 8800GTX like easyrider is doing then you don't get another step-up until you buy another graphics card for full price.

If you don't buy an 8800GTX with a step-up, you're going to be able to step-up 90 days later but you're throwing up to £500 away in the process when you could just get a 7950GX2 instead and use that to step up in 90 days. Either way it's win-win, unless you buy an 8800GTX new.

Athanor said:
Gibbo has said it's £150 more expensive than the cheaper GX2s so you're just being inaccurate with the £500 card Vs £200-£300. Are there GX2s for £200 of are you making that up for dramatic effect. We know it'll only be £150 give (or take) a little depending on the GX2 model.

Hello, HELLO! The cheapest GX2 on OcUK is £333! Are you on drugs? Can I please borrow your drugs, or go to whatever planet you're on that has a bizzaro-world OcUK selling GX2s for £200? Even £333 + £150 = £483! Hello!!! *Knocks on head repeatedly, hears hollow wood sound.*

Sorry, but I didn't even bother to read the rest of your post because if it's anything like the first half I wasted minutes of my life replying to then my brain might explode.

FreeStream · 26 Oct 2006 at 21:23

Athanor said:
FSX 1900x1200 = low detail or 10fps on any card out now

You say that, buy my XTX isn't at full load, except when in the 3D cockpit.

Outside temps drop from about 65 to 55C. Which is 100 to about 60%.

If it was using it all I would be abovue 20FPS all the time...

Macro · 26 Oct 2006 at 21:28

xsnv said:
If you have the money and can afford to buy a 8800gtx, DO!

If you don't, fine. Just don't bi*** to people who can.

Simple.

Exactly... Will the poor people please be quiet

Cyber-Mav · 26 Oct 2006 at 21:34

Kezmo said:
It does ? cant the x1900 run pretty much everything right now at high ress or ?

nop, call of juarez at 1152x864 no aa and only get around 30fps.

but just cause at 1600x1200 with hdr and 2xAA = over 60fps most of the time and looks far better than call of juarez :confused:

Macro · 26 Oct 2006 at 21:34

Ulfhedjinn said:
Erm, if you use a step-up to buy an 8800GTX like easyrider is doing then you don't get another step-up until you buy another graphics card for full price.

If you don't buy an 8800GTX with a step-up, you're going to be able to step-up 90 days later but you're throwing up to £500 away in the process when you could just get a 7950GX2 instead and use that to step up in 90 days. Either way it's win-win, unless you buy an 8800GTX new.

Hello, HELLO! The cheapest GX2 on OcUK is £333! Are you on drugs? Can I please borrow your drugs, or go to whatever planet you're on that has a bizzaro-world OcUK selling GX2s for £200? Even £333 + £150 = £483! Hello!!! *Knocks on head repeatedly, hears hollow wood sound.*

Sorry, but I didn't even bother to read the rest of your post because if it's anything like the first half I wasted minutes of my life replying to then my brain might explode.

You really are being quite obnoxious arent you.

You said you can buy a GX2 for £200-£300, not me. Now you're saying the cheapest is £333. :confused:

Ulfhedjinn said:
Good luck with that "false economy." While you are buying £500 graphics cards for 2000 more 3D Marks and DirectX 10 support, someone with aGX2 will be happily playing all the same games in DirectX 9 with 2000 marks less for £200-£300 or so.

I''ve not mentioned step up programs anywhere, I said if you buy a GX2 now for £150 less than a G80 you'll have saved £150. However in a years time when you come to sell your GX2 it'll not be worth much on the second hand market as a DX9 only card, someone selling their G80 to buy the next gen will potentialy get a much better second hand price making up the initial £150 difference and will have had the advantage of a 10-20% faster card with single GPU solution and DX10 for a year for almost no difference in price.

If you stopped being rude long enough to read the post and listen to what people were saying you'd understand...

WiBu · 26 Oct 2006 at 21:38

I think a lot of people are making the mistake in thinking that people will be buying this card just for the D3D10 features alone and are forgetting that it will be absolutely screaming fast in DX9.

It will be the fastest DX9 card around and will get a second lease of life when D3D10 games come to town.