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Blackwell gpus

AMDPower said:
AMD don't have that kind of money, intel does.
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Someone will be along shortly saying AMD does and that AMD are in a much better position to Intel yada yada :D

Journey said:
Christ you never can just admit you talk rubbish. A DC brick is totally insulated in order to be safe, and it generates huge amounts of waste heat all while surrounded by plastic, hence why they fail (a lot). If you've ever bothered to take a monitor apart, and change and power board or AD board, then you'd see they have heatsinks on and then generally also use vents on the monitor case, so convection can do its job to move the heat away, they are also way more efficient. So no there isn't a BRICK inside a monitor you plank.
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Always fun seeing someone laying the smack down on Grim now and then. He talks with such confidence and gets things completely wrong at times.

He will disappear for a while again after this and come back and carry on like nothing ever happened :D
 
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Jensen right now explaining to Grim why he needs to now get a 5090.

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From Nvidia's own data, Blackwell on paper only has 30% more compute than Hopper. Most of the performance comes from AI, not raw compute.

If that translates to the gaming GPU, then 30% increase in performance from the top Lovelace to the top Blackwell and keep in mind the 4090 had about 100% more compute performance than the 3090, but potentially the 5090 may only be 30% more than the 4090.

And compute doesn't translate 1:1 for rasterization, its about 0.5:1, so 15% rasterization performance over the 4090 if clock speeds remain the same - but if clocks go up 20% as leakers suggest and you add in GDDR7 vram then maybe you end up with 30% rasterization improvement over the 4090.

Not really worth upgrading for, its going to come down to any AI improvements Nvidia can do on the gaming side, like Ray Tracing and DLSS improvements
 
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Grim5 said:
From Nvidia's own data, Blackwell on paper only has 30% more compute than Hopper. Most of the performance comes from AI, not raw compute.

If that translates to the gaming GPU, then 30% increase in performance from the top Lovelace to the top Blackwell and keep in mind the 4090 had about 100% more compute performance than the 3090, but potentially the 5090 may only be 30% more than the 4090.

And compute doesn't translate 1:1 for rasterization, its about 0.5:1, so 15% rasterization performance over the 4090 if clock speeds remain the same - but if clocks go up 20% as leakers suggest and you add in GDDR7 vram then maybe you end up with 30% rasterization improvement over the 4090.

Not really worth upgrading for, its going to come down to any AI improvements Nvidia can do on the gaming side, like Ray Tracing and DLSS improvements
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Your suggesting the 5090 will only be 30% faster than the 4090? This is highly unlikely.

Even if it were a 30% from a hardware perspective, Nvidia would ensure that driver optimisations will make the 5090 significantly faster, these will be restricted from working on hardware below the 5000 series.

Now that AMD are waving the white flag and not competing with the 5000 series, you can expect more nice features like this from Nvidia. DLSS4.0 should be fun etc
 
Grim5 said:
From Nvidia's own data, Blackwell on paper only has 30% more compute than Hopper. Most of the performance comes from AI, not raw compute.

If that translates to the gaming GPU, then 30% increase in performance from the top Lovelace to the top Blackwell and keep in mind the 4090 had about 100% more compute performance than the 3090, but potentially the 5090 may only be 30% more than the 4090.

And compute doesn't translate 1:1 for rasterization, its about 0.5:1, so 15% rasterization performance over the 4090 if clock speeds remain the same - but if clocks go up 20% as leakers suggest and you add in GDDR7 vram then maybe you end up with 30% rasterization improvement over the 4090.

Not really worth upgrading for, its going to come down to any AI improvements Nvidia can do on the gaming side, like Ray Tracing and DLSS improvements
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Remember the 4090 was only using 89% of the AD102 die so Nvidia could have used 95% and made it another 10% faster.

If they use 95% of the Blackwell die which they may well do then that’s another 10%
 
just checked the bay, 4090 dropping for 1250, 5090 aint even out yet, and somehow 4090 are dropping from 2000 to 1250 already

that means when the 5090 drops 4090 gonna be way cheaper
 
hobib_ali said:
just checked the bay, 4090 dropping for 1250, 5090 aint even out yet, and somehow 4090 are dropping from 2000 to 1250 already

that means when the 5090 drops 4090 gonna be way cheaper
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that's how much they really should have cost but somehow they ended up £2000. Dont worry when people see how much 5090 cost when released the demand for 4090 will rise again and a lot of regret by those that sold early.:D
 
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