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Calin Banc said:
It will depend how much the architecture will steer towards RT/PT, favoring those more. SER I believe, can be up to 25% performance improvement.
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If you push too hard towards PT (and 25% is nothing here as it barely would increase number of rays, it would need to be orders of magnitude higher to really replace raster) you will run into raster bottleneck or CPU one (as CPU still very important to current RT/PT implementations). Architecture has to be balanced and currently it feels like it is in 4k series. I expect them to just present some new AI based magic that won't work on 4k series for some reason and will be the main selling point (and it will take 2+ years to even see it in any game).
 
mrk said:
Wouldn't factor in the D just yet, even the 4090D is specced higher than the 5080:

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The mem bandwidth and bus width speak for themselves really It's not like the core architecture is very different to gain performance via efficiency either here.
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It's just more transistors for more power use in 5090, unlikely to see any other big improvements.
 
It might be splitting hairs but I think whether a £2k card is ‘value for money’ is a slightly different question than whether it’s ’a lot of money’ - it’s a different sort of personal analysis!

You can buy a lot of things with £2k - it is a lot of money in that sense, IMO. Even a billionaire could recognise that and opine on whether there is value compared to other things he could spend his money on, factoring in how important shiny graphics are personally.

But if you’re a billionaire then its cost in isolation is irrelevant. Ditto, if you’ve got moths coming out of your pockets, then ‘value for money’ doesn’t get a look in as you’re already priced out.

Basically, everyone’s sense of value will be different based on their own financial circumstances.
 
Ayahuasca said:
I'm sure someone can come up with a way to objectively value a 4090, though realistically it's hard to say what it's "really worth".
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The objective way to measure it is: what benefit do I as a buyer get from this purchase? If it brings the buyer joy and allows them to indulge the hobbies they love, then it's worth it to the buyer.

The loss/depreciation from a halo card every 2 years is insignificant to me when making sure I can get the most out of PC and VR gaming.
 
Richdog said:
The objective way to measure it is: what benefit do I as a buyer get from this purchase? If it brings the buyer joy and allows them to indulge the hobbies they love, then it's worth it to the buyer.
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I don’t know about anyone else, but that sounds subjective rather than objective i.e. feels over facts.
 
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let’s see how well people lap this 5090 up and I bet we’ll be getting a £4000 6090 and people will still lap it up, yeah I can’t blame them if I was big enough and could mug people like that maybe I would, or maybe I wouldn’t, maybe I’d just see pc games as a chore and just huff and puff and sell a really high priced gpu because all I’m interested in is the AI scene, then milk the tier down from it for as much as I could for minimal gain while also milking it with revenue from people streaming games that utilise my overpriced GPUs to further increase my profit margins
 
willhub said:
let’s see how well people lap this 5090 up and I bet we’ll be getting a £4000 6090 and people will still lap it up, yeah I can’t blame them if I was big enough and could mug people like that maybe I would, or maybe I wouldn’t, maybe I’d just see pc games as a chore and just huff and puff and sell a really high priced gpu because all I’m interested in is the AI scene, then milk the tier down from it for as much as I could for minimal gain while also milking it with revenue from people streaming games that utilise my overpriced GPUs to further increase my profit margins
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shintel and ayymd will figure something out
 
Tinek said:
I've been there with 4090 ;) But absolutely not interested in getting 5090, still feel 0 need for it. Maybe 6000 series will bring something that will woo me over.
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I'm the same - I feel like I can skip.a gen with my 4090 unless somehow the 5090 ends up being a really great deal (I doubt it though).
 
Ayahuasca said:
I don’t know about anyone else, but that sounds subjective rather than objective i.e. feels over facts.
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Because it IS about feels or else 6600xt 8gb would be on top of every chart, gamers would only have a 1080p screen and AMD would laugh all the way to the bank. It's not a business, there's no objective ROI outside a subjective view.
 
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but that is exactly how it is, people are 'feeling the prediction' the truth is Nvidia have a range of options and limitations they are probably baked in now to a choice but do we or anyone outside on TSMC know that? No probably not
 
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