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Cant get any more unbiased than somebody walking up to a liberal protestor and asking them what they think of socialism....
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Cant get any more unbiased than somebody walking up to a liberal protestor and asking them what they think of socialism....
Noble, until you find yourself backing murderers and terrorists. Given you evidently have a very black and white view of the world, that scenario is pretty likely.
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And i'm the naive one?
I'm sure the Youtubers didn't cherry pick the responses in the edit and discount all the people that gave a reasonable response, to make a point.
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Interesting
Though since we're talking about Charlottesville, mine is the side that didn't have a murderer on it...
A counter-fascist protest with some anarchists or other ***** hiding in the crowd and a KKK/Neo-Nazi rally are not different sides of the same coin. Yes, they both have violent extremes, but everyone in the latter group is utter scum whether they use violence or not.
Ahh yes Anarchists, the people wanting to destroy everything, such nice people huh. They are equal, the only reason you don't see that is because you want absolute evil to be only true for one side of the scale Horseshoe, regardless of what happens.
They are both utter scum just one side hiding behind the moral high ground - both would forcibly silence any opinion different to their perspective if it was within their power, both want to redefine what is "normal" to what is their opinion. Granted on the left it is an over-compensation for what is an actual issue in society (rather than what is mostly a perceived one) but that doesn't make it any better.
EDIT: Over-compensation is being generous some are doing it as it gives them a platform to look down on people or just be little ***** with less potential for come back.
And here gentlemen, we have number 2.
Apparently he needs links to see that after a number of high profile shootings of black people by police officers in America, when a black man goes on a shooting rampage targeting police officers immediately afterwards that the motive is the shooting of black people by police officers...
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Disingenuous in extreme
A cop is suing the leaders of BLM for money because he was shot by a lone sniper.
A form member here said they are just as much the culprits as the sniper...
I tried to find out their direct involvement in the shooting case, and nobody can even give me one link? I was just told to "connect the dots"
I'm personally no anarchist, if I had written the above and then read the below Id shut up!
How poorly informed can someone be?
You mean 'communism' or 'Nazi national socialism' - not modern democratic socialism.
Essentially you are using a different meaning to a majority of the population of the political left. Do you believe Norway to be the same as Nazi Germany of Communist Russia?. (A nation often held up as model for many 'socialists' to emulate)
I don't expect an intelligent reply btw, I'm simply highlighting the idiocy of what you are saying.
Even the fringes of the political left (who are wrong I may add) who advocate Communism are actually proponents of Marxist as opposed to Leninist or Stalinist Communism - which again isn't the same thing. Nobody on the political left is at all advocating national socialism from Nazi ideology.
Hitler wasn't exactly big on social equality, a pretty big deal for 99% of the political left. You would have course know this had you do even basic research outside of the likes of Breitbart & other political commentators of the ilk.
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Anarchy does not require the destruction of everything. It simply pursues the absolute freedom of the individual from state authority and control. If an anarchist destroys stuff you should blame the individual not the political ideology.
Yet in another thread I believe you have indicated that the moron who ran people over at the protests in Charlottesville is linked directly to the protestors. Which way round is it?
Indeed, you also get left and right wing anarchists.
Some aspects of the Tea party were anarchists, many of the political far right are also (Who advocate little to no state interference on any matter). Libertarians hold many similar views also, with the ownership of private property being a key defining point.
Then you get the left-wing collectivists, Anarcho-syndicalism & such.
"In contrast with other bodies of thought, particularly with Marxism–Leninism, anarcho-syndicalists deny the possibility of a workers' state, or a state which acts in the interests of workers, as opposed to those of the powerful, and posit that any state with the intention of empowering the workers will inevitably work to empower itself or the existing elite at the expense of the workers."
With the last line being a key reason why previous iterations of Communism which were attempted failed.
TBH I find most of those actively political left/liberal that I've talked to whether they've really thought through their position or not are actually advocates of something more like communism with Marxist flavours than modern democratic socialism - even when their main focus is something more like seen in some Scandinavian countries, etc. deep down they subscribe to much more far reaching measures.
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Feel free to find that quote...
His link to the protestors is that he was part of the protest group on the same day. I said he was part of their side, I never blamed anyone else for the attack.
How is that similar to a lone gunman attacking police and then claiming BLM leaders were just as culpable for the shooting?
Because - "he's part of their side".
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He's part of their side yes, but he was responsible for his own actions.
Same as the lone gunman.
Same as the lone gunman.
No, i'd still repeat it because it's true, the state is the only reason why we aren't still in caves.
No no, in your post earlier in the thread you grouped them together as one entity.
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