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Django x2 said:
It's a different chassis, it's a different length, it's a different wheelbase. You're right, must be the same :p
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The wheelbase can vary across a chassis especially a difference as slight as the 4mm in this case. The M5 has a different rear axle support as it has the M diff, hence the wheelbase variation. It's so slight that they retain an identical (as in the same part) body skeleton. As for length, it's a product of body panels.

It's not ground up on a fresh chassis. It's a hot 5 series with tweaks and changes by M.
 
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Looks alright for a 13 year old machine!
 
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Django x2 said:
Lolwut? The M5 isn't BMW taking a 5 series and adding sports suspension and big wheels and calling it a sports car. It's a ground up sports car which has a 5 series body and interior. No one would, with any hint of irony, say that the m3 and M5 were saloons or coupes trying to be sports cars because, quite frankly, they'd get laughed at.

Is the Panamera a sports car trying to be a fast saloon/estate?

And as fox noted, even the F10 steering remained hydraulic rather than the rest of the range electric, and the only car to be made without run flats. It's a sports car, that even has a different chassis to the rest of the F10 range.
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Fox has already dismantled your post so I don't feel the need to, but I think you missed the whole point of my reasoning anyway!
 
[TW]Fox said:
The wheelbase can vary across a chassis especially a difference as slight as the 4mm in this case. The M5 has a different rear axle support as it has the M diff, hence the wheelbase variation. It's so slight that they retain an identical (as in the same part) body skeleton. As for length, it's a product of body panels.

It's not ground up on a fresh chassis. It's a hot 5 series with tweaks and changes by M.
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Well it's my sports car and that helps me sleep at night
 
Stumbled upon an e38 at the weekend, it's a 2000 facelift 728i SE 140k with nav, silver,black leather and a tow-bar.


Wasn't particularly looking to change my V70 but the thing that's got me wondering about this is it's current owner,it's been owned for the last 9years by the owner of a local independent BMW specialist and he says it's wanted for nothing during his ownership (as you'd perhaps expect!) he's willing to replace some links on the front suspension and some bushes at the rear which it needs along with - most importantly for an e38 - replace the leaking fuel tank which is both a common fault and a big job which I'd expect to find needing on most out there!

With everything done including an inspection 2 service and fresh MOT, he's asking £2500 which is high ish from what I've seen of available e38's but I'm sorely tempted given the jobs he's willing to do on it prior to sale and surely, if an e38 that's been owned and ran by a BMW specialist for 9 years isn't a prospectively good one, what is?!?
It's got a bit of lacquer peel on the front wings and some paint is cracked on the rear quarter panel, he has an on site body shop and maybe I could negotiate this into the asking price?

I'd sell my Volvo and use the 7 for caravan lugging.

It's not the ideal spec, I'd prefer ideally a 740 Sport, but, the prospects of dropping on one without needing the jobs I mention especially the fuel tank are slim....

Thoughts?
 
Marvin said:
I suppose my first thought, if it's genuinely 'wanted for nothing', why does it need so much doing to it now?
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There is that, yes, of course.

It's MOT has expired and the tank is what it failed on, he said he's been waiting on a new one from Germany which is now waiting to be fitted when workshop time allows....
 
Unfortunately the E38 is now at such an age where they come in 2 conditions and 2 conditions only: Absolutely knackered with a different knuckle dragging owner every year for the last 10 years, and massively overpriced "Mint" examples that no one in their right mind would ever buy for the kind of money asked.
So, with this in mind a genuine example with a good history and only a few things needing doing sounds like a good shout if - and I know how much you love them - the E38 is what you want.
 
I did think it was overpriced but it appears to be the going rate... Cheapest on AT is £5k and 300 miles away with fewer options and more miles.

I'd like one, but I don't want to spend £15k on an E89 and definitely don't want to spend £10k on a newer E85.

Is it just the time of the year?
 
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