BMW and M Power Owners

Robi said:
I know this question has been asked a million times, but is professional navigation worth it over business? I've been looking for an M135i for months now and I either find the car which ticks all the boxes but doesn't have pro nav, or the car does have pro nav but isn't estoril blue/black dakota for example. I'm genuinely starting to go insane now.

I don't think it's a budget issue either, as even when I up it from £20k to £22.5k it still appears that this option is rarely ticked. This strikes me as odd considering it's sought after and widely regarded as an essential option (albeit an expensive one). Admittedly I've only ever sat inside a car with pro nav, but in my opinion the larger screen just sits nicely and compliments the interior.
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I'm finding pretty much the same thing, have been looking for a 335i in estoril blue but I'm looking for one with xenons, pro nav and wait for it,,,, drum rollllllll,,,,,,,, split folding seats. Found a hybrid 3 which had a load of extras but then found out that the they don't have split folding rear seats due to their design and where the battery is but the newer 330e can have split folding seats. Ho-hum, can't believe that the 3 series doesn't come with folding rear seats as standard.
 
Got a 225xe a couple of weeks ago, the dealer sent through this video when they first received it:


Not an upgrade on my 530D but I wanted something smaller and more efficient, especially as most of my journeys are now <10 miles. I've done ~615 miles on £30 fuel over several journeys, so not bad so far. Also got a recharging point put in at home which cost ~£350 plus government subsidy @ £500, work has also just got free recharging points installed.
 
IAmATeaf said:
I'm finding pretty much the same thing, have been looking for a 335i in estoril blue but I'm looking for one with xenons, pro nav and wait for it,,,, drum rollllllll,,,,,,,, split folding seats. Found a hybrid 3 which had a load of extras but then found out that the they don't have split folding rear seats due to their design and where the battery is but the newer 330e can have split folding seats. Ho-hum, can't believe that the 3 series doesn't come with folding rear seats as standard.
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Good luck finding a car with the split/fold rear seats. I imagine that'll be a very hard overall spec to come yet.
 
Took a bit too long wiping some bird droppings off the white paint. A flat matt like etching left in it's place.

Any suggestions? Warm water and elbow grease hasn't done anything
 
Thoughts on either of the cars below?

2013 M135i 3d Automatic 33,225 miles - £19.2k
Alpine white/black dakota
Media package - professional
Driver comfort package
Visibility package
Harman Kardon
Cruise control
Rear park distance control (PDC)
Folding mirrors
+ lots of other options

http://usedcars.bmw.co.uk/1-Series/3.0-M135i/Bedford/3415094-606329349-3497050.aspx?srcmdc=se_na_re_

2013 M135i 3d Automatic 30,000 miles - £18.7k
Estoril blue/black dakota
Service pack & MOT protect until March 2018
Media package - professional
Adaptive M suspension
Heated seats
Rear park distance control (PDC)
+ other options

http://carreraspecialistcars.co.uk/vehicle/name/bmw-1-series-3-0-m135i-6/#vehicle-details

I'm ideally after 2013/2014 or LCI if possible, 3 door, automatic, estoril blue/white/mineral grey and specification wise professional navigation is the absolute minimum requirement. Budget is £20k but I can increase if justified or if the independent/BMW AUC are willing to negotiate.

The above is the result of months of checking BMW AUC, Autotrader and PH. I'm not having much luck!
 
That last example is an exceptionally good example and is surely well worth the extra.

This is what I've found with BMW's lately. The older ones seem really poor value alongside the much newer ones. If a 2015 is £22k with hardly any miles you'd expect one with 30-50k more than twice the age to be significantly less but even if you drop down to a 2012 you don't save much money but do quickly find yourself in a world of replacing bits of suspension, bit of wear here, etc etc.
 
[TW]Fox said:
That last example is an exceptionally good example and is surely well worth the extra.

This is what I've found with BMW's lately. The older ones seem really poor value alongside the much newer ones. If a 2015 is £22k with hardly any miles you'd expect one with 30-50k more than twice the age to be significantly less but even if you drop down to a 2012 you don't save much money but do quickly find yourself in a world of replacing bits of suspension, bit of wear here, etc etc.
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Simply put I should spend an extra couple of grand for all of the reasons above?

In your experience how are BMW AUC with regards to negotiating on price? Wishful thinking expecting them to drop it by £1-2k? Obviously there are a lot of variables, but generally speaking.
 
In my opinion yes you should but I am biased - I spent 6 months trying to find a nice 2012/13 5 Series and ended up finding them all such poor value that I just got a 2015 instead.

Discounts vary wildly - one particular dealer group won't take a penny off a price others will sometimes slash thousands and thousands to do a deal, but the level of discounts will depend on a number of factors:

a) What the car is
b) How popular that model/options/colour combo is
c) How long they've had it in stock
d) How well priced it is in the first place versus its value

On a keenly priced M135i of which that appears to be one I would not be expecting thousands and thousands off the price but you should be able to get £500ish off at the least.

Most I ever got was £2k - but that was on a 2 year old 335i with wood trim, beige seats and a manual gearbox so I'd imagine they were happy to get rid of it!
 
That M135i is great value. I paid £21k for a thee year old M135i with double that mileage and with almost the identical option list. The release of the M140i won't have helped!

As Fox said £500.00 off sticker price at the very least. Depends how far you want to push it with them.
 
If you don't mind a higher mileage example I'm considering selling my LCI M135i at some point. It would be within your budget and meets your desired spec.

I just need to figure out what to replace it with, or if I even want to sell it!

For reference mine is:
2015 LCI (one of the first - registered April 23rd I think)
ZF 8 speed auto
Pro nav
BMW Advanced loudspeaker system (the one in between the crappy basic & HK)
Adaptive suspension
Adaptive LED headlights w. high beam assist
Front & rear parking sensors
Cruise control with brake function
Heated seats
Folding auto-dimming wing mirrors

It's white with red leather & brushed aluminium trim

Cosmetically it's pretty much perfect, it's just had two new front tyres (BMW OEM Michelin PSS).

It will need the rear tyres replacing in 5-10k miles I'd expect, and it's almost due a set of front & rear brake pads.

It's just passed 60,000 miles (!), but has just over 9 months of the original warranty still remaining.
 
killsta said:
You should be able to get that close to £22k I reckon, it'd be worth pushing your budget to £22k for an LCI car.

That last AUC one is lovely.
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Admittedly it does seem a bit daft to spend in the region of £20k on a pre-LCI model when £2-3k more gets you inside a very well optioned LCI. Apart from the exterior changes, the LCI comes standard with bluetooth audio streaming, black panel, extended storage, tyre pressure monitoring, business nav, LED headlights and the later steering wheel right? I've also heard it's marginally more powerful.

[TW]Fox said:
In my opinion yes you should but I am biased - I spent 6 months trying to find a nice 2012/13 5 Series and ended up finding them all such poor value that I just got a 2015 instead.

Discounts vary wildly - one particular dealer group won't take a penny off a price others will sometimes slash thousands and thousands to do a deal, but the level of discounts will depend on a number of factors:

a) What the car is
b) How popular that model/options/colour combo is
c) How long they've had it in stock
d) How well priced it is in the first place versus its value

On a keenly priced M135i of which that appears to be one I would not be expecting thousands and thousands off the price but you should be able to get £500ish off at the least.

Most I ever got was £2k - but that was on a 2 year old 335i with wood trim, beige seats and a manual gearbox so I'd imagine they were happy to get rid of it!
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Thanks. I can't imagine this example will be around for very long, as the colour/age/mileage and specification stood out like a sore thumb to me.

I'm going to book a test drive for this weekend. It'll be a nice 6 hour round trip from Manchester!

killsta said:
Only thing that one is missing is the MPE, but that can be rectified ;)
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I've seen a couple of threads about the MPE recently on babyBMW, hovering around the £800 all in mark, so not too bad. It's already on my list :)

Havana_UK said:
If you don't mind a higher mileage example I'm considering selling my LCI M135i at some point. It would be within your budget and meets your desired spec.
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Thanks for the offer. Unfortunately I'm after 3 door only and the red leather is a big no no personally. Whatever floats your boat etc etc, but that colour just doesn't do it for me!
 
Robi said:
Admittedly it does seem a bit daft to spend in the region of £20k on a pre-LCI model when £2-3k more gets you inside a very well optioned LCI. Apart from the exterior changes, the LCI comes standard with bluetooth audio streaming, black panel, extended storage, tyre pressure monitoring, business nav, LED headlights and the later steering wheel right? I've also heard it's marginally more powerful.
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Think that's pretty much it. The ZF box also has newer software I think, which makes it a lot nicer drive. Not that the pre-LCI was particularly poor.
 
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