Not too sure I agree with this. Finding the right car with the almost right spec took me ages and even then I had to go with something that had nearly what I wanted.
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Not too sure I agree with this. Finding the right car with the almost right spec took me ages and even then I had to go with something that had nearly what I wanted.
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I agree, it isn't true unless you want a 320d.
I tried this page, but when I put in my details it doesn't come up with any service options, it might be because its still under its 3 year warranty.
Could you take a screenshot of this for me?
I think this may be the price the lady on the phone at Sytner was trying to get a quote on but she said the system wouldn't let her query it the vehicle isn't 3 years old yet.
If it is only £90 I'll wait until the warranty has ended and book it in.
Cheers
A lot of the M-lite cars being made unappealing by the PPF. The stock exhaust for example on the 140i/240i is now a lot more muted as unburnt fuel getting into the exhaust has been programmed out as well as generally being more retsrictive. No doubt there is a power loss as well. Not allowed to install an M Performance Exhaust either as it isn't compatible.
Will be i lnteresting to see what the new Z4 is like in its top trim.
I'm guessing the 340i and 440i are also affected.
The early X3 M40i had a pretty lively exhaust, so that would be an interesting one to keep an eye on.
Manuals are also disappearing because of the new emissions standards.
Will be i lnteresting to see what the new Z4 is like in its top trim.
I'm guessing the 340i and 440i are also affected.
The early X3 M40i had a pretty lively exhaust, so that would be an interesting one to keep an eye on.
Manuals are also disappearing because of the new emissions standards.
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Just read this, develops the same power as the straight 6 335i, does that mean that that the x40i will turn into the x45i and where will it stop?
I think the x40i remain 6 pot going forward. So the next 1 series won't have a 140i. Whilst the 2 series still might.
Not sure they have an engine under development for it though unless they string the B58 for a few more years? But then it won't be clearly faster than the new 4 pots.
The M2 just got given the S55 and so will likely just get detuned M3/M4 engines going forward.
Argggh!
Well if current trends continue, only the M cars will be left in terms of decent performance.
The M550i (or M760i) is definitely not a normal car. Happy to call it an M-lite.
It's such a nonsense phrase. Sticking M in front of the model was the marketing teams response to Audi convincing everyone that an S3 was somehow better than a 135i Sport because the name started with S.
'M lite' just sounds so ridiculously naff.
'M lite' just sounds so ridiculously naff.
I have to say I agree with Fox (and that's as a previous M135i owner, a car which I think is excellent for what it is). BMW M have had nothing to do with the M140i/240i/550i, etc. Aside from having a big powerful engine and the larger M Sport brakes as standard they are completely normal 1 series, 2 series, etc. underneath. The actual M cars are very very different to the standard models from which they are derived.
Well BMW don't call them M-lites. But at least its a term which makes it clear its not an M car.
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You could argue the 'full fat'
M's aren't that different to the normal models using that analogy, what other different do you get suspension and possibly a cf roof?You could argue the 'full fat'
Err the engine?!
M lite is nonsense rubbish owners forums have come up with to make themselves feel better about not having an M car. Which is a shame as imho the M140 etc are good enough without needing to worry about that.
They are no more M Lite than a 540i M Sport fitted with the same engine is...
£1200
Meanwhile people pay 12 grand for an E36 328
‘Lol’ I can only assume you are talking about me Fox...although it wasn’t 12 grand.
Come and compare the two. If you think a £1200 car is comparable in condition you are mistaken.
The whole suspension system, suspension geometry, complete drive train, almost every body panel, unique interior...You could argue the 'full fat'