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@ChrisD. How much did you pay for your upgraded lights on the M3? How much was fitment?
I’m thinking of doing the same as the boggo LEDs on the 340i are dire, it feels like I’ve got a candle at the front of the car
Found a pair for just over £1,000, plus I’ll need them fitting (already have HBA on the car, so just headlight swap and coding)
I’m thinking of doing the same as the boggo LEDs on the 340i are dire, it feels like I’ve got a candle at the front of the car
Found a pair for just over £1,000, plus I’ll need them fitting (already have HBA on the car, so just headlight swap and coding)
It was £2.5k for the lights and modules, around £2-300 for fitting (hard to judge as I had the front shock dust covers replaced at the same time), and £50 for coding.
Is your car an F model? £1k is suspiciously cheap for LCI Icons /w modules.
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Thanks for the info. Yeah an F30.
From what I understand, it’s just headlights I need - the LED ballasts and control modules are the same on each of the headlights.
Icons aren’t available for the F30, it’s just standard adaptive LED from what I can tell.
Trying to gauge whether it’s worth giving it a go. 2 red flags for me are the fact that the headlights are super clean (like, factory clean) and that the eBay seller wants to do the sale in person off eBay.
But they do have 100% feedback and have specialise in selling car parts.
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Have you double checked you have the right camera ?
Highbeam assist on its own uses a lower quality camera located under the rear view mirror in the car where I think the adaptive LEDs need the KaFUS camera that is also used for lane assist and speed limit sign recognition.
Highbeam assist on its own uses a lower quality camera located under the rear view mirror in the car where I think the adaptive LEDs need the KaFUS camera that is also used for lane assist and speed limit sign recognition.
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Correct, HBA is not enough. The lights will still work, albeit with no adaptive functions.
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I see, the info I had previously found suggested that the HBA camera was sufficient for adaptive LED lights on the F30.
Edit: example thread
Edit: example thread
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They are, they were the upgraded headlight option, with the normal LED lights standard fit.
But surely every 340i would have at least the standard LED lights with the upgraded option being the Icon LED headlights?
So it's not clear what you're upgrading to if it isn't the icon?
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Ah I thought the Icon headlights were a reference to change in DRL, like on the M2/M3 when you get Icons. On the 3 series they look the same, pretty much.
So for clarity, I have standard LEDs (just the standard reflector), and I'm looking to upgrade to the fully adaptive system which has twice the number of LEDs per headlight (split reflector).
The car has presence. An M5 just does it for me in a way that Ferraris or McLaren's don’t.
A friend has a facelift in what I think is called snapper rocks blue? Followed him to a meeting in a 520d(same model year) parked up behind him on the street… When we came out the meeting, there was a group of teenagers taking photos. Anyway, he drove off, I followed, the lads were videoing and I’ve never felt so invisible in my life
Same sentiment from him, incredible car, beyond capable but no drama.
With all the adaptive functions, such as boxing out cars etc?
I have adaptive xenons on my F23 and they box out on high beam.
I bought my M5C new. Its just over 3 years old now, Just bought the extended warranty. The thing has been faultless since new. Had the recall for the expansion tank before it needed it but thats it.
What surprised me about getting used to the power was that you weren't catapulted to the horizon but more the horizon time warped into your face ala Star Trek.
We go on a European road trip for about 5 weeks every summer. Spend a couple of weeks in a villa or two but most of it is spent exploring and stretching its legs across the Pyrenees etc.
I'm at the point were I'm starting to look for its replacement but nothing is going to come close and tick the same boxes as the M5C does.
I've been eyeing a Mclaren 600LT but would also need a daily and we'll definetly not be able to load the Mclaren up for a 5 week road trip like we do the M5. Boot full and then the back seats too.
I was considering the New M5, leaning towards the Touring but whilst mental fast and very comfortable and to be honest fairly rare, Theres just no sense of occasion with them. Although the BIK draw with the new one looks good.
Yes, all singing and dancing moving headlights too
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Maybe it's different on the M3 then, my understanding is you need the additional camera on the front for a retrofit if the car doesn't already have adaptive LEDs. My car has lane assist/blindspot/collision detection etc so it wasn't an issue, straight swap plus coding.
Not too sure, my icon adaptives were specced from factory so I guess already coded/sorted, unless that HBA camera is actually a kafas?
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The HBA only camera is inside the car under the rear view mirror. KAFUS camera is attached to the windscreen with the auto wiper sensor.
HBA camera
KAFUS camera varies in design between models some only have one rather than two but always attached to the windscreen.
www.bmw5g30.com
Surprised the adaptive LEDs works with the lower quality camera as when I was looking for a F31 I looked at the guides at the time they all said it needed the KAFUS camera to retrofit. I found a F31 with adaptive headlights so didn’t need to do a retrofit in the end, it had speed limit display aswell and a KAFUS camera.
It was 2017 I last properly checked so it may be the guides were wrong at the time as it was common if it had adaptive headlights it would usually have a good spec which would include lane assist or speed limit display with the better camera.
HBA camera
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRJFM1DUk8wu-nx3xDGSV7v4Y4WaRx5_h8IbKNep1moqQ&s
KAFUS camera varies in design between models some only have one rather than two but always attached to the windscreen.
BMW 5 Series - KAFAS - Driver Assistance Systems
BMW 5 Series G30 2016-{YEAR} Training Manual. Driver Assistance Systems. KAFAS
Surprised the adaptive LEDs works with the lower quality camera as when I was looking for a F31 I looked at the guides at the time they all said it needed the KAFUS camera to retrofit. I found a F31 with adaptive headlights so didn’t need to do a retrofit in the end, it had speed limit display aswell and a KAFUS camera.
It was 2017 I last properly checked so it may be the guides were wrong at the time as it was common if it had adaptive headlights it would usually have a good spec which would include lane assist or speed limit display with the better camera.
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Why is it brake fluid only ? Should align to other bitsGo to book a brake fluid service, oh nice £68, grand.
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WTF is all this BS?!