BMW and M Power Owners

[TW]Fox · 20 Jan 2015 at 18:35

Scania said:
My 528 (or maybe it was my 728 or 328?) did this, my 530 doesn't, how do you enable it (I quite liked it) hmm, or was it my old mans e34 that did it? I swear I'm getting dimentia!

Your 530i probably has Low OBC so the answer is you don't enable it

Mr Paul · 20 Jan 2015 at 18:41

It's in the iDrive (CCC) on my E60 530D.

Scania · 20 Jan 2015 at 18:42

[TW]Fox;27508867 said:
Your 530i probably has Low OBC so the answer is you don't enable it

It's got this one (which differs from the one in my 528i) I assume peasant spec...

Image grabbed from Google.

Mr Paul said:
It's in the iDrive (CCC) on my E60 530D.

The only idrive my e39 has is the fact that I drive it! :/

[TW]Fox · 20 Jan 2015 at 19:13

Yup, you have low OBC, your 528i had high OBC.

TheVoice · 20 Jan 2015 at 19:19

Gaygle said:
The rear lights are very VW Golf Mk7 (I think?) though. Not that that's a bad think though.

I agree, which is odd because the previous rear lights looked more like the current VW Polo.

NVP · 20 Jan 2015 at 19:37

[TW]Fox · 20 Jan 2015 at 19:45

Onboard Computer.

There were two versions available on the E39 - a basic one and an extended one available as an option (or as standard with navigation).

NVP · 20 Jan 2015 at 19:59

panthro · 20 Jan 2015 at 20:24

CIC retrofitting for CCC cars has become much cheaper recently. When I was looking in 2012 it was still around a grand for the equipment plus coding; seems you can get it all done now for under £500. I think that's one of the only downsides to earlier E9x M3's but now it's a lot more affordable.

mjt · 20 Jan 2015 at 23:16

panthro said:
CIC retrofitting for CCC cars has become much cheaper recently. When I was looking in 2012 it was still around a grand for the equipment plus coding; seems you can get it all done now for under £500. I think that's one of the only downsides to earlier E9x M3's but now it's a lot more affordable.

On a similar note, what is noteworthy about the newest iDrive?
Is it still called CIC or iDrive Touch or what?

I've noticed the knob is bigger so I presume that'll be finger recognition.

Anything else that makes it better than the older CIC?

xs2man · 20 Jan 2015 at 23:31

It's NBT. It looks and feels a bit swisher to use, but beyond that, I have less functionality with the NBT over the CIC, but I think that's more to do with the way some of the functions are now charged for.

[TW]Fox · 20 Jan 2015 at 23:37

Think of NBT as an enhanced, swisher and more modern looking CIC. I beleive the 'official' name for NBT is actually 'CIC-High' which further shows its an evolution of CIC.

Whereas CIC was a revolution over CCC. You'd feel seriously short changed with a CCC car these days - it absolutely looks its age and is very low resolution with non intuitive menus etc. Whereas CIC is still fairly excellent to use.

It is fairly crappy how BMW stripped a load of the standard features out and now charge extra for them. What is it you are missing xs2man, isn't it just the ConnectedDrive services? Or do you miss out on the Enhanced Bluetooth as standard too?

xs2man · 21 Jan 2015 at 00:40

Yeah, miss out on the enhanced bluetooth. But also in my 335d with CIC I was able to get the news "apps" without connecting my phone via USB. And I could look up information about my current location, or wherever I had set in my nav as a destination etc... Weather, local attractions etc...

I didn't have "full" internet with my CIC, I couldn't look up google, or search from there, but I could do some stuff, reading the news headlines for example, which made sitting about in the car a bit nicer. I'm missing that functionality at least, but on the other hand, I can flash my lights and stick my heating on before I get to the car, for whatever that's worth.

I do have ConnectedDrive with my NBT Pro Nav, but it does feel a bit stripped back compared to what I had with the CIC. I wasn't willing to pay for such basic things that should have been included (enhanced BT for example, can just be coded in. If it's just a software change, then why charge £400+ for it?).

NVP · 21 Jan 2015 at 07:37

xs2man · 21 Jan 2015 at 08:32

Absolutely serious.

thewanted · 21 Jan 2015 at 08:41

I am not in any way endorsing the £400 charge for Enhanced Bluetooth, but it's more than a software change if you spec it upfront. It includes a cradle which is wired into the car's antenna to provide a better signal, and it also charges the phone at the same time.

panthro · 21 Jan 2015 at 08:41

Maybe I'll stick with CIC iDrive then for my next car.

Basher · 21 Jan 2015 at 08:45

xs2man said:
Yeah, miss out on the enhanced bluetooth. But also in my 335d with CIC I was able to get the news "apps" without connecting my phone via USB. And I could look up information about my current location, or wherever I had set in my nav as a destination etc... Weather, local attractions etc...

I didn't have "full" internet with my CIC, I couldn't look up google, or search from there, but I could do some stuff, reading the news headlines for example, which made sitting about in the car a bit nicer. I'm missing that functionality at least, but on the other hand, I can flash my lights and stick my heating on before I get to the car, for whatever that's worth.

I do have ConnectedDrive with my NBT Pro Nav, but it does feel a bit stripped back compared to what I had with the CIC. I wasn't willing to pay for such basic things that should have been included (enhanced BT for example, can just be coded in. If it's just a software change, then why charge £400+ for it?).

Have you tried the software change, yet? I'm really keen to enable BT streaming, it seems crazy it's not already included with Pro Nav.

J1nxy · 21 Jan 2015 at 08:52

panthro said:
Maybe I'll stick with CIC iDrive then for my next car.

The 6 comes with Pro Nav and enhanced bluetooth as standard

[TW]Fox · 21 Jan 2015 at 08:58

panthro said:
Maybe I'll stick with CIC iDrive then for my next car.

To be fair I have all the online stuff he is missing and its really just a gimmick.