BMW and M Power Owners

[Hedge]

Wow yeah thanks guys it was an M135i I was thinking of.

The reason this came up for me was because a young lad at work bought a Vauxhall Corsa VXR new.... finance all in it works out 23k... I nearly had a heart attack when I heard that.

Mind blown.

 

[[TW]Fox]

Buying a Corsa new is daft at the best of the times especially now it's one of the oldest cars of its type you can buy - 6 years since it first came out, £23k on one at this stage in its life is just bonkers.

 

[panthro]

I love the M135i but dont think I could buy it brand new. The 135i held its value reasonably well compared to other petrol BMW's and I'm sure the M135i will follow suit, but it will no doubt shed a sizeable amount of cash. In 2-3 years there's going to be plenty of estoril blue M135i's on BMW AUC.

 

[Hedge]

Buying a Corsa new is daft at the best of the times especially now it's one of the oldest cars of its type you can buy - 6 years since it first came out, £23k on one at this stage in its life is just bonkers.

Its absolutely unbelievable isnt it. Hes had it about 5 months but Id only noticed it recently and we all got talking about it.

If I was ever going to get myself in a finance situation for that kind of amount Id certainly want something with more prestige than a Vauxhall thats for sure.

 

[MacRS4]

Wow, if they made it in a coupe form I'd have bitten their hands off and bought one already.

As I think I mentioned before, when I was looking to replace my M3 I came incredibly close to buying a 135 coupe with a plan to modify, or a 1M.

If I'd have bought a 1M I'd have been colossally annoyed at the the M135 release due to the price differential.

The 135 Coupe was a brilliant car. Far less aggressive than the M3 of course, power far more linear, and I'm sure the outright performance didn't match, but it was a hell of a car in DCT form.

The M135 looks like an astonishingly capable package.

The M3 is a beast, but it's a beast with an associated cost. the M135 looks like 90% of the beast with far less of the wallet raping going on.

I just can't get on with the shape, and I want a Porsche

*Sorry edited, didn't realise that was swearing, my bad.

 

[Chris1712]

3 Door F20 + Estoril Blue + M-Sport bits HRRRRNNNNNNNGGGGHHHHH

 

[MacRS4]

Get that man a tissue.

 

[Gaygle]

They could be anything up to 7 years old and without an invoice you cannot prove the age. It is luducious to expect a factory replacement with a brand new wheel when a 7 year old wheel sourced second hand from an internet auction site cracks.

They didn't even mind about the age though! They had no problem with it at all and said if it had been the factory standard alloy and it had been proven to be a manufacturing fault, they would have been happy to proceed. They have just got hung up on the fact that some guy in Germany didn't fit them in a BMW factory.

I think it ludicrous that BMW charge people £200 for software updates to fix bugs in their software. I think it's ludicrous that BMW denied all knowledge of OBD thefts and BMW wheels cracking until Watchdog got onto them. I think its ludicrous BMW charge £120 for 6.5litres of oil when i can get it from third of the price as a normal customer, let alone trade price!

It matters for the reason I've outlined above.

The age of them? This wouldn't be a problem if they were factory fitted.

I think you are being very unreasonable in being irritated that they won't help you. Surely few people would expect a manufacturer to stand behind and warrant a set of used wheels from Ebay!

What relevance is it where they are from?? If they're genuine OEM BMW manufactured alloys, and have cracked due to a manufacturing defect, it shouldn't matter if Big Dave from the local Kwik Fit gave them to me.

It totally matters where it came from, where is your proof that it wasn't purchased from Ebay already cracked at a discount?

I don't have proof. But how come last week when i got my HPFP replaced, no questions asked, they didn't question me in case i bought a broken one off ebay and fitted it? Yeh, i might be running some big time scam ripping off BMW for MV3 alloy wheels, but you don't think if i started claiming for broken alloys every other week they might get suspicious? I'm hoping they'll use a bit of common sense and realise that I am not doing this.

On your car - sure. On your Ebay wheels? Not so much.

Again, why does it matter where i got them from?

I'm sorry but whilst its perfectly reasonable to expect the co-operation from the manufacturer on a warranted, manufacturer serviced vehicle it's another thing entirely to expect that to extend to any old second hand bits you decide to bolt onto it (irrespective of whether it was you or the previous owner).

If it had been a part that had no documented evidence of being faulty, i may agree. And they weren't "old second hand bits" in the way you're trying to project, they were mint OEM BMW manufactured MV3 alloy wheels that cost someone £450 per corner, and cost the previous owner to me £900 for all four. It's not like they were some crapped out, smashed to bits fake alloy that i'm not trying to claim on. And it's not like BMW alloy wheels aren't prone to cracking.

As with pepsilol I am again suprised at the claims that the 18's suffer from the same problem the 19's do. All my research suggested the same as he found - that the 18's were not affected by the design flaw. It is very common on the 225's but very rare on the MV3's.

Again, i'm definitely not the first to have cracked MV3 alloys and others have had them replaced. It's a moot point anyway, they're not arguing that MV3's don't suffer from cracks, they're arguing because they weren't fitted at a factory in Germany - they can't offer goodwill.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11252981&highlight=mv3#post11252981

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10879632&highlight=mv3#post10879632

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10570652&highlight=mv3#post10570652

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8424456&highlight=mv3#post8424456

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7991278&highlight=mv3#post7991278

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8411332&highlight=mv3#post8411332

And you think of how small the number of people that have MV3's that are also regular posters on E90Post compared to how many BMW's were sold with MV3's fitted across the entire country...

Cracks happen on any wheel from time to time just out of bad luck. I think this is what happened to you, which is different to the comedic farce that was the problems with the 225's.

Which is why i want them to give me a run out test. If it's been cracked due to my or the previous owners fault - fine. If it shows that the alloy has suffered a manufacturing fault - why should i foot the bill for this?

 

[[TW]Fox]

The age of them? This wouldn't be a problem if they were factory fitted.

But they are not factory fitted nor were they supplied on your car! Why would you expect goodwill? What next, you transplant a 335d engine and expect your warranty to cover that or BMW to offer goodwill if a turbo went?

My radiator failed due to a design flaw when it was younger than your wheels - did I get Goodwill? Did I expect to? Of course not. Why do you?

What relevance is it where they are from?? If they're genuine OEM BMW manufactured alloys, and have cracked due to a manufacturing defect, it shouldn't matter if Big Dave from the local Kwik Fit gave them to me.

Every relevance, would you like to show me a shred of legislation which would support your theory that a manufacturer should be liable for 'manufacturing defects' (Of which you have no evidence it is yet) after 7 years?

I don't have proof. But how come last week when i got my HPFP replaced, no questions asked, they didn't question me in case i bought a broken one off ebay and fitted it?

Balance of probabilities? Plus at least the HPFP is a part that could have been fitted new, your wheels were not even offered on your model of car.

Again, why does it matter where i got them from?

You really can't see why there is a difference between the wheels supplied on your warranted car having an issue and a random set purchased second hand on an auction site from an unknown source?

And they weren't "old second hand bits" in the way you're trying to project, they were mint OEM BMW manufactured MV3 alloy wheels that cost someone £450 per corner, and cost the previous owner to me £900 for all four.

I know this, you know this, but you can't prove it. They therefore remain of unknown source.

they're arguing because they weren't fitted at a factory in Germany - they can't offer goodwill.

Which seems entirely fair. it is GOODWILL after all. Its entirely BMW's choice - frankly even if they were your originally fitted wheels goodwill isnt something to expect its something to be grateful of its offered. Warranty aside (Though not sure it covers wheels) it's a 6 year old car! It's not 6 months old.

Which is why i want them to give me a run out test. If it's been cracked due to my or the previous owners fault - fine. If it shows that the alloy has suffered a manufacturing fault - why should i foot the bill for this?

Why shouldn't you? Did you buy the wheels from BMW? No. Did the previous owner? No. Were they even supplied with your BMW vehicle? No. They were second hand accessories purchased on the second hand market. I'm amazed you think BMW owe you something because one of them is cracked after goodness knows how many years and miles of use.

 

[Gaygle]

Decided on the Named Component cover with EC after all. Better to have it there and not need it than not .

Just got my renewal through!

Comprehensive with £100 excess (No ES) - £360
Comprehensive with £0 excess (No ES) - £480

Named Component Cover - £100 excess (No ES) - £311
Named Component Cover - £0 excess (No ES) - £407

I'm certain that i will take out the Comprehensive warranty, however, i'm not sure if i should go for the £100 excess one or £0. If there was only a small difference between the prices i would probably just get the £0 excess, but difference between them is a full £120, which is a fair amount.

Thoughts?

 

[melchy]

I went with "Comprehensive with £100 excess (No ES) - £360" figuring that i'd need to make a claim on the warranty twice to make the price differential worth while. I will re-evalutate that next year depending upon any claims i need to make this year.

 

[[TW]Fox]

Just got my renewal through!

Comprehensive with £100 excess (No ES) - £360
Comprehensive with £0 excess (No ES) - £480

Doesn't seem to be as bad as the current price hikes were suggesting.

 

[Ste]

Hmmm sometimes I start to wish I'd gone for the M135i. It was just a little small/wierd looking/expensive on the tax (would've been about 80 a month more than my f30 328i msport).

Outrageous performance though

 

[Ev0]

Or a 4 pot turbo like the 118i M Sport or 125i M Sport which are almost the same price when you consider options etc

I had a look on our company lease scheme and a new 135 comes in at around 600 a month, the 125 is about 420 I think with the 118 around 315 I think.

But the 135 does have a nice spec as standard with the leather and m sport brakes etc

 

[Gaygle]

I went with "Comprehensive with £100 excess (No ES) - £360" figuring that i'd need to make a claim on the warranty twice to make the price differential worth while. I will re-evalutate that next year depending upon any claims i need to make this year.

Hmmm... £360 is far more attractive than £480...

Especially after spending £580 on tyres, £445 tax next month and possibly a new rear alloy...

 

[mjt]

I got a quote of €1036,50 for TPFT, which is an increase of €20 on last year.
I told my agent to give me something better and he said that there have been increases across the board. So he reduced it by €24. FML

 

[Sparky]

Initial thoughts on the 335i, slow!

 

[[TW]Fox]

Slow?!

 

[rG-tom]

Initial thoughts on the 335i, slow!

compared to what...

 

[rG-tom]

That awkward moment when your own car tells you to drive more moderately ¬_¬ excuse the quality of thephoto the warning only stays on for a few seconds so was rushing to take it