Boeing 777 shot down

Ayahuasca said:
I've met people with PhD's who are just as dumb, not quite sure what his point was.
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I've always found that it matters not what people do know - whether that be from a GCSE up to a PhD. What really matters is if people know what they don't know. Which is most likely the case here - people using something they were never trained or qualified to do without the appropriate safeguards along with a laissez-faire attitude from the airlines about overflying areas of conflict with a shrug of the shoulders and a well nothing normally happens attitude.
 
ubersonic said:
Well basically fox, the people in control of that area of Ukraine (known as the Donetsk People's Republic) made it clear some time ago that their airspace was a no fly zone (works out well for them as they only have like 2 planes) and any intruders would be shot down, hence why they have been shooting down military aircraft there and now apparently this.
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Oh right, I didn't realise a No Fly Zone could be formally established by random separatists.
 
Westyfield2 said:
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Igor Girkin on the VKontakte social network: "We just downed an An-26 near Torez. It's down somewhere near Progress mine, We had warned them not to fly in 'our sky'"
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Igor has just let the cat out the bag about who blow up the passenger jet.
 
[TW]Fox;26622322 said:
Oh right, I didn't realise a No Fly Zone could be formally established by random separatists.
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Look at it this way, we don't recognise the legitimacy of Russia's control of Crimea, but if they announce it's a no fly zone, then it's a no fly zone. Legitimacy is pretty irrelevant in this situation, the people in full control of the region declared it a no fly zone well ahead of time and they were fully equipped to enforce it.

I wouldn't want to fly there, you?
 
There is a translation of the video on one of the main Reddit threads.

Absolutely no way of any of us are proving if it's real or not though.
 
delta0 said:
Youtube video code V5E8kDo2n6g in Russian (as you would expect)
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Antony101 said:
Any reputable translation?
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From reddit, but can you can make out words like 'Thompson' so this translation may be accurate:

SBU (Ukrainian defence agency) published a captured terrorists' radio-chat

A brief translation:
terrorist Bes: Just shot down a plane. Miner's group did it. Crashed near Enakievo.
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'Major': So, it were 'chernukhin' guys who shot down the plane. Near the Chernukhino block-post. The cossacks that stay near Chernukhino. The plane fell apart in the sky near the Petropavlovsk mine. Found the first '200' (a corpse). A civilian.
'Grek': What do you have?
'Major': Damn this was a civil flight.
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'Grek': did they have weapons?
'Major': nothing at all. Just civil luggage, medicine, towels and toilet paper.
'Grek': what about documents?
'Major': Yes, indonesian student's card. From the Thompson University.
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:/
 
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