Botched execution in the US
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Pushed back in the US in relation to the US which appears not to matter to you. I am sure there are plenty of people on here who'd vote for it to come back - quite a few in this thread I would wager.
I bet the next guy is bricking it now............. GOOD
Because of this incident he might not be executed at all.
All executions are going to be delayed indefinitely while this is investigated and there are going to be some very long legal trials.
This could well be the beginning of the end of capital punishment in the US.
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Soldato
Indeed.
Just over a third of the population.
Or... 81% of BNP voters.
If it was me, I'd reconsider my views on the matter it's one commonly shared by the group with the lowest IQ... but hey...
Saying that though I think you would need to reconsider your views on a matter if it correlated with those in the highest IQ bracket from what I've read of your allegiances on these forums.
http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dalla...etts-victim-had-a-name-stephanie-neiman.html/
Worlds smallest violin still playing worlds saddest song for both of those prisoners.
As a concept, I think the death penalty is a terrible idea.
Not feeling anything for either of those guys though.
Worlds smallest violin still playing worlds saddest song for both of those prisoners.
As a concept, I think the death penalty is a terrible idea.
Not feeling anything for either of those guys though.
Soldato
Nope. They will wait for about 2 months for it to calm down then re-start.
I remember one guy would put on so much weight he couldn't
fit in the chair. So they put him on a diet then fried him
Texas is getting ready for the next bunch to get it. Well done USA.
It's disgraceful, the "doctors" have no right to be called that, they violated the Hippocratic oath and are clearly clueless about medicine. Who on earth executes someone with those kind of drugs? Propofol or morphine would be the obvious choice if barbiturates were not available.
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Indeed.
Just over a third of the population.
Or... 81% of BNP voters.
If it was me, I'd reconsider my views on the matter it's one commonly shared by the group with the lowest IQ... but hey...
I'm not quite following that? Where is it from out of interest and what population does the 'all' refer to?
US doctors have a higher burden to the state than their patients and their profession - it doesn't work like the EU hence why they can work at Gitmo. Propofol was not available for usage because it is mainly made in Germany. Therefore, they would be putting the scheduled regular procedures at risk if they were to use it in executions. As I have pointed out before they should have used midazolam with a larger dose + opiate, then vecuronium and the the KCl. However they would actually need to have a line in place anyway. How the hell they couldn't find a vein on a person of that age is pretty worrying that then placed a femoral when they quite clearly didn't have the ability to do so then didn't even check it is even more so. Alternatively, they could not kill people or even if they insisted on continuing to do so just use nitrogen.
I personally refrain from calling them doctors, they are not physicians if they act contrary to their profession.
I am completely against the use of paralytic drugs and potassium chloride, it runs the risk of extreme suffering because the "patient" could potentially be awake, just like in this situation. All you need is an anaesthetic, that guarantees that the "patient" is unconscious when dying and will not suffer, just simple respiratory depression is all that is needed, and that is why the use of an anaesthetic as a sole agent is the standard method of euthanasia of animals, and humans too for that matter.
I am against the death penalty anyway.
I am completely against the use of paralytic drugs and potassium chloride, it runs the risk of extreme suffering because the "patient" could potentially be awake, just like in this situation. All you need is an anaesthetic, that guarantees that the "patient" is unconscious when dying and will not suffer, just simple respiratory depression is all that is needed, and that is why the use of an anaesthetic as a sole agent is the standard method of euthanasia of animals, and humans too for that matter.
I am against the death penalty anyway.
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They are doctors - all doctors in the USA practice under those conditions. Every country in the world has a differing weight of responsibility to the profession, the state, society and to the patient.
Why are you against paralytic agents and KCl they were chosen for good reason. The patient was only awake because of other failures. I've already explained why they can't use an aesthetic.
For someone who playing the appeal to expertise the other day you seem to be missing quite a bit.
Caporegime
Oklahoma and Utah still offer firing squad, if I recall correctly they also aim for the heart.
I know we'd have several people on this forum who would in likelihood claim they would love the job the real world shows that when people undertake such things it tends to do them irreversible psychological harm.
Soldato
Rather than the death penalty being enforced in such a disgusting manner, they should be used to clear mine fields or something to make their deaths useful. Might even save a life to payback for one's they took/ruined.
I disagree, if you violate the basic principles of medicine you are not a physician. Being a doctor is more than just having a medical degree, you must act in an ethical manner, ie. not murdering people in the capacity of a state hitman.
Isn't it obvious?
If you use paralytic agents there is a possibility no matter how small, of a horrible death, if you use anesthetics only that possibility is eliminated. That is why only anaesthetics are used in euthanasia.
Can't get hold of them? Then don't do the execution.
Caporegime
or you know just use machines they've designed to detect them, what happens when a mine goes off and they survive with limbs missing?