I didn't realise Buffalo is only 40% whereas Makers is 45%. That's certainly a point in Makers' favour. Ah well, my Buffalo is arriving today. Needed something in for Christmas! (That and the 12 bottles of scotch I've got on the go
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Hehehe My S+s order came off just received 3 bottles at £19.xx each haha
Whilst not my fave its decent for sub 20quid lol
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Bought some Makers Mark this weekend as it was also on offer in Morrisons and saw people rec it in here, not very impressed, much prefer Buffalo with & without mixer
I didn't realise Buffalo is only 40% whereas Makers is 45%. That's certainly a point in Makers' favour. Ah well, my Buffalo is arriving today. Needed something in for Christmas! (That and the 12 bottles of scotch I've got on the go
It's a shame really. They sell it at 45% in the USA.
Eagle Rare 10 is sold at 45% here so who knows why they've decided their distillery named bottle should be 40%.
Tried a new one which is now on the list - Bowsaw American Whiskey.
Considering it is currently £35 on Amazon I'd say its no way worth that, I got it for £24 I think, even at that price, it's average at best. It's okay but not one I would get again.
Considering it is currently £35 on Amazon I'd say its no way worth that, I got it for £24 I think, even at that price, it's average at best. It's okay but not one I would get again.
Well, it is a lot cheaper so they gotta keep costs down I guess. We compared the last drop of Woodford with the first drop of Buffalo -- both in a Boulevardier cocktail. Could tell the difference and to my surprise the Buffalo was a lot smoother. I preferred it in that cocktail. Might be the lower abv of course but that's ok when there's vermouth and amaro in it too
Tried the Basil Haydens ........honestly I think its overrated. Its nice, but definitely not worth it's price tag. It's a little plain.
One to add to the list I suppose.
One to add to the list I suppose.
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Just got into bourbon in the past 6 months. Ranking of those I've drank
Woodford
Bullet
(Cheating but the Jim beam black cherry. So sweet and indulgent, I know I know. Try it before you judge me
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Buffalo
Makers mark next
Woodford
Bullet
(Cheating but the Jim beam black cherry. So sweet and indulgent, I know I know. Try it before you judge me
)Buffalo
Makers mark next
A bit late for a reply on this but duty in the Uk is based upon ABV, so if they want to keep it really cheap they need to keep the ABV to the minimum, ie 40%. Bumping it up to 45% would add just under £2 in duty and vat, which at the price range it is in is a pretty big % increase.
I had never considered that for Bourbon, I knew that was the case, why all those supermarket cheap lagers like stella and budweiser etc became less strong Stella used to be 5.3% abv, Budweiser 5% abv etc - but its accross the board with most of them. But I hadnt really thought about spirits like that I guess it makes sense.
Just got into bourbon in the past 6 months. Ranking of those I've drank
Woodford
Bullet
(Cheating but the Jim beam black cherry. So sweet and indulgent, I know I know. Try it before you judge me
Buffalo
Makers mark next
You are off to a good start there, to be honest, Bulliet, Markers Mark and Woodforde really are a great benchmark to go by all bourbon, and I might have tried one or two by now (see the first page on this thread
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I recently got a bottle of Knob Creek, its not the best personally, it was meant as a mixer but just wasn't keen on it, did end up drinking it, but not going to get that again, opened a bottle of Buffalo Trace, can't go wrong with that for the price.
Yeah I get that, what I don't get is why they don't just take the £2 hit. It's already inbetween price brackets, so they're not competing with Jack Daniels or Jim Beam for the cheap swill. The lower ABV means it's not as engaging as Maker's Mark and Woodford Reserve. While I've not had the US version, by all accounts it stands up favourably to those, and the £2 extra would put them into the exact same price bracket. Makes no sense to me.
Not really, I regularly see BT in the £15-£18 range, I don't think I've ever seen either of the other two within a couple of quid of that price.
MAkers MArk and Woodford Reserve are regularly on offer for £20 a bottle, normally around/just before Christmas, have been for the last couple of years anyway.
But yes Buffalo Trace is cheaper, I have seen it £18 very regularly, Wild Turkey actually which is normally similar priced to Buffalo, I have seen down to £14 a bottle which is an absolute steal.
Infact there is the evidence, havnt checked that since about Christmas:
Bulleit is £22 a bottle at the moment which is the best deal currently.
After christmas I still have a few bottles so I dont need anymore, but if I were buying today that is the one to get.
EDIT: Actually **** it, why not, not like it goes off lol.
After christmas I still have a few bottles so I dont need anymore, but if I were buying today that is the one to get.
EDIT: Actually **** it, why not, not like it goes off lol.
Referring to those two as 'cheap swill' is way off the mark.... I mean you're not even in the ballpark!
Are they less expensive than premium brands like Makers, Woodford, etc.? Yes, they are. But that doesn't make them swill by any means. If you can't appreciate those two for what they are then I'm not sure you know Bourbon.
I you want swill try Kentucky Gentleman or Kentucky Deluxe or something like it at less than half the price of Jim or Jack! 1.75L for $12 US.... let that sink in.
The thing is on the UK we just don't get those, I mean Jack Daniels/Jim Beam are not terrible, but those cheap brands you talk of in the US just wouldn't be cost effective to import them over here.
Yes there are a few cheaper brands here, but in the UK market JD/JB is pretty much the cheap option.
Jack Daniels no 7 (their web site suggest we get the same as the usa) can be the same price ~£22 as Makers in the UK, maybe down to alcohol duty % we have in the UK,
so you have a straight choice.
Was not aware of any of that and I would take Makers over JD at the same price.
Not the case here. 1.75L of Beam ~ $25, JD ~ $35, Makers ~ $50 and Woodford ~ $60
Still, if we're being honest, neither Beam nor JD are "swill".