Bournemouth Deaths

peterwalkley said:
I don't buy that one. What powers does a lifeguard have when someone just says "bog off, i'll swim where I like".
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Consider a scenario where the swimmers are ignorant of the existence of the ‘danger zone’, which the lifeguard is responsible for monitoring and protecting people from, and the lifeguard fails to take any action to dissuade them from the zone.

^That would have elements of negligence and responsibility that may result in manslaughter.

If however a lifeguard has done all he could reasonably be expected to do, then as you say it wouldn’t be an appropriate charge.
 
BUDFORCE said:
Is anyone familiar with that beach and know if riptides form there?

I must admit I've only ever seen it once in this country, and even that one would only take you out maybe 25 yards, fair enough if you can't swim that's dangerous.
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Yes they do. As I posted earlier I grew up there and bournemouth beach safety and the random stuff that can happen if you fool around was a common talking point at home/school.
 
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Nitefly said:
Manslaughter effectively means negligence that has led to unintended death, so causing death by accidentally hitting someone with a boat, as @dowie suggested, could be a reason for an arrest of manslaughter.
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I think you're missing my point. They have already specifically said that this did not happen. That was why I was trying to consider a scenario where the pilot of a boat could be considered culpable despite having done nothing to directly cause the issue.
 
I think there are bouys (I said bouys, not boys, down Philip), delimiting the extent vessels can come close to the beach, maybe the skipper ignored them and was deemed to have hampered the rescue?

Then the ship's documentation came under scrutiny as did the vessel's condition?

Almost as exciting as the great Evri garage door mystery. I'm like a wound up spring, quite scandalous intrigues for a June weekend. ;)
 
neilw said:
I don't think you get rip currents at Bournemouth. The wind that day was pretty strong though.
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Bournemouth is well renowned for it's rip tides. There are actually detailed signs regarding them. One exists from the entrance to Poole harbour which will pick you up and spit you out 12 miles away in Christchurch.

Sadly, this type of thing happens almost every year on the south coast, but this does seem to have a stronger media presence for whatever reason. It's almost always visitors too who are less familiar with the sea and all that nature brings with it.
 
VincentHanna said:
You don't get many 40 year old lifeguards
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CaptainRAVE said:
What an absolute embarrassment the police were in this case.

news.sky.com

Bournemouth beach deaths: No police action to be taken

Dorset Police said they have made an "evidence-based decision" that the man initially arrested on suspicion of manslaughter and a sightseeing boat did not contribute to the drownings.
news.sky.com news.sky.com
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Probably fancied some time on the beach looking at the bikini clad totty in the nice weather, same as dragging out the McCann saga, weeks on expenses in Portugal are probably rather appealing. Quite what "arresting" the boat achieved i don't know, ships are unlikely to plot some alibi with fellow vessels.
 
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CaptainRAVE said:
No, that the police just arrested some random guy having jumped to some massive conclusions. For anyone who lives by the coast, we’re well versed on naturally occurring rip tides.
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"During the emergency response that followed information was given to police which indicated that the movement of a boat - the Dorset Belle - immediately before the incident occurred could have contributed toward creating dangerous sea conditions.
"Witnesses suggested that there had been similar issues with the vessel having created such problems previously."

I still don't get why you're having a go at The Police.
Fingers were pointed
Boat driver originally arrested
Enquiries done
No charge

I presume these locals were well versed in rip tides also.
 
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