Poll: Brazilian Grand Prix 2016, São Paulo - Race 20/21

Rate the 2016 Brazilian Grand Prix out of ten

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I gave the race 4. RB make huge strategy error and that gave rosberg 2nd.
Watch some one on new tires over someone on 40-50 lap old tires is not racing.

Pirelli needs better wet tires.
 
KiNgPiN83 said:
Button had another terrible call with tyres. People go on about his amazing mystic like powers of going on to the right tyres at the right time but I recall far more, change tyre, it's the wrong tyre, change back, than him getting the calls right. Basically if you fire enough shots you're going to hit the target at some point
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There was something odd with his car or setup all weekend, he wasn't any quicker or slower on both wet tyres, shame as he could have made a lot more of the wet weather.
Vertigo1 said:
If Lewis takes pole and wins in Abu Dhabi, yet Rosberg still takes it by finishing second or third, then Lewis will have won more races and taken three more poles, despite not even competing in three Q3 sessions, having suffered three engine failures and also handicapped in Belgium as a result of them.

So, despite what the Nico fanboys or Lewis haters would like to believe, Rosberg will be one of the luckiest champions ever, only taking it by virtue of being in a massively dominant car and his teammate and only real challenger having suffered massively more reliability issues.
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And not working out how to use the clutch to get off the line as well as Rosberg.. not all down to reliability.
 
Duke said:
And not working out how to use the clutch to get off the line as well as Rosberg.. not all down to reliability.
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With all due respect that is not correct.

Races Nico has lost the win from pole due to bad start: Germany and Hungary

Races Lewis has lost the win from pole due to bad start: Australia, Bahrain and Monza.

It is not like Lewis has had double or triple the amount of bad starts compared to Nico. He has only had the one extra bad start.

The unreliability has cost Lewis more especially the DNF in Malaysia. But whatever will be will be. If Nico wins then congrats to him.
 
Hamilton didn't lose the win from pole due to a bad start in Bahrain, he lost it because Bottas hit him and he had to come back from 9th.

The singapore race alone, if Hamilton's engine hadn't failed the points today would be 380 Hamilton and 364 Rosberg... even with Rosberg hitting him off in Spain, even with 3 qualifying sessions (2 failures and Spa) meaning Rosberg had zero competition for the wins in those races and Hamilton had zero chance of winning, Hamilton should still have a very very healthy lead right now. IF the reliability situation was equal between the drivers, Hamilton would have the title won going into the final race.

If Rosberg actually got punished for Spain(for which the FIA found him guilty don't forget) that would have been even more points lost at Monaco as he probably should have gotten a 5 place grid penalty at the very least.

For me luck is one thing, you can't do anything about it and what will be will be. But Rosberg is a flat out cheat, that is why I can't stand him and why he won't deserve the title. He pushed Hamilton off in Spain, he cause a collision with him in Austria, he did the exact same thing again to Verstappen a race or two later.

he's gotten extremely lucky that all of Hamilton's failures have come at tracks Hamilton consistently stronger at than Rosberg. China and Russia, Hamilton won both in 2014/2015. Spa, Hamilton won last year and Rosberg felt the need to hit Hamilton in 2014 to prevent him winning that one. Singapore iirc Hamilton was ahead in both races at the time car failures happened each year.

Had these failures happened in Nico's strongest races say Austria and Germany, while Hamilton instead was fine in his strongest races and won Russia and Spa, it would look fairly different.
 
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I give the race an 8/10.

Verstappen's driving was a real spectacle. His passing on the outside of various corners and bravery was fantastic to watch. He's definitely got "it" ... and his ability to find grip and break the mould so to speak in terms of traditional racing lines was brilliant.

A lot of excitement in that race but also some truly frightening parts such as Vettel's spin before the back straight and Kimi's spin, those wet tyres need sorting if that can help... and also the track needs better drainage systems in place?
 
drunkenmaster said:
Hamilton didn't lose the win from pole due to a bad start in Bahrain, he lost it because Bottas hit him and he had to come back from 9th.

The singapore race alone, if Hamilton's engine hadn't failed the points today would be 380 Hamilton and 364 Rosberg... even with Rosberg hitting him off in Spain, even with 3 qualifying sessions (2 failures and Spa) meaning Rosberg had zero competition for the wins in those races and Hamilton had zero chance of winning, Hamilton should still have a very very healthy lead right now. IF the reliability situation was equal between the drivers, Hamilton would have the title won going into the final race.

If Rosberg actually got punished for Spain(for which the FIA found him guilty don't forget) that would have been even more points lost at Monaco as he probably should have gotten a 5 place grid penalty at the very least.

For me luck is one thing, you can't do anything about it and what will be will be. But Rosberg is a flat out cheat, that is why I can't stand him and why he won't deserve the title. He pushed Hamilton off in Spain, he cause a collision with him in Austria, he did the exact same thing again to Verstappen a race or two later.

he's gotten extremely lucky that all of Hamilton's failures have come at tracks Hamilton consistently stronger at than Rosberg. China and Russia, Hamilton won both in 2014/2015. Spa, Hamilton won last year and Rosberg felt the need to hit Hamilton in 2014 to prevent him winning that one. Singapore iirc Hamilton was ahead in both races at the time car failures happened each year.

Had these failures happened in Nico's strongest races say Austria and Germany, while Hamilton instead was fine in his strongest races and won Russia and Spa, it would look fairly different.
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1F. Also incidents where Rosberg has been unlucky - for one example - didn't his car have faults during the British GP which he couldn't resolve as driver aids were banned - only to be unbanned the next race?
 
Glaucus said:
yep, there was only one or two people on this forum, who didn't have to eat their hats. The rest of us and the vast majority of media and people in the sport, were so so wrong.
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I always love reading this article every few months.

What was said when Lewis left Mclaren for Mercedes


I think I gave up any hopes of another championship after Malaysia and I think Lewis did as well.

If anything I think it makes Nico look even weaker with how small the points gap will be when he wins
 
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drunkenmaster said:
Hamilton didn't lose the win from pole due to a bad start in Bahrain, he lost it because Bottas hit him and he had to come back from 9th.
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Yes but remember Nico had taken the lead starting from second. The fact that Lewis got hit just added to his woes. I do believe though that is one race Lewis could have still won.

smr said:
1F. Also incidents where Rosberg has been unlucky - for one example - didn't his car have faults during the British GP which he couldn't resolve as driver aids were banned - only to be unbanned the next race?
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Kind of correct. Nico was in 2nd and had the gearbox issue. Merc were immediately on the radio telling Nico how to fix the issue unlike Lewis in Baku where they said cannot help sorry because of the rules.
 
jaybee said:
Hmm....looks to be over now. Reminds me of when Nicky Hayden won the drivers title in motogp in 2006 with only 2 race wins in the season. Very unpopular winner.
At least he didn't cheat though like Nicola.
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Happens loads especially in F1.

Lauda was better than Hunt but the latter ended up with the title in 76
Schumacher was better then Villeneuve and Hill, but still lost out on titles to them

I'm sure there are tons of examples, I don't know why people get so worked up of it.
 
Whilst it was an "entertaining" grand prix - it does prove that without some rain, F1 is utterly boring.

Very rarely, apart from Brazil, and a couple of other tracks do you get rain. Ergo, Mercedes go round in a different league to the rest and everyone else is no where to be seen.

Superb drive from Max but I believe that F1 with one dominant team is so utterly boring, that it's getting to the point where some teams spending £50 million plus to finish 15 and 16th etc will just say, why bother?

There is no way, who ever wins the title, can actually say, they are the best driver. The title has been decided by who has the best car.

Give them all indy cars/nascars etc which is general are stock cars with very little difference, and then see who the best driver is.

Hamiliton is unreal in the wet, Nico is very lucky again.
 
I think Max in the Mercedes would beat everyone out there. He has no fear in the wet and even had the ability to think fast and correct a spin at 150mph or so where many others would have totaled it.
 
smr said:
1F. Also incidents where Rosberg has been unlucky - for one example - didn't his car have faults during the British GP which he couldn't resolve as driver aids were banned - only to be unbanned the next race?
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Ooh, lost three whole points as a result of being demoted from second to third!

Hamilton lost 28 points as a result of his Malaysia engine failure alone!
 
The engine failure from 1st was definitely the deciding moment for me. Along with Rosberg's car surviving Vettel snapping the front of his car off his Mercedes with seemingly no damage a few races back a close second.

If anything the last race has the potential to be an absolute beast! (Or just a Ham/Ros 1-2 with Ros taking the title with very civilised celebrations all round and not a hat being thrown in sight. :D)
 
Verstappen was god tier in this race.

From looking on Reddit this morning I came across this video....


Makes you realise how far from that we've come, and in many aspects I don't think it's for the better.

:(
 
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