Poll: Brazilian Grand Prix 2021, São Paulo - Race 19

Rate the 2021 Brazilian Grand Prix out of ten

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Nice to see an exciting race after a few boring races.

This sort of performance really shows how far ahead mercedes and red bull are compared to the rest.

I wasn't surprised that Max didn't get a penalty but it will be interesting to see what happens if the roles are reversed next time.
Nice to see Lewis pull off the pass in the end as he deserved the win.

As long as Lewis is behind on points it's down to him to avoid contact. Max will be pleased if they both dnf the next race and he maintains his lead.
 
Steampunk said:
I really, really want Hamilton to win the championship, and then when he collects his trophy and does a little speech, I want him to thank Verstappen, Horner and Red Bull for making the season interesting, and then wish them luck for next time.

I think Max's head would explode.
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Yeah, a patronising "good effort!" would be beautiful :)
 
@Plec I can’t edit individual votes, the only options are reset votes, delete poll or edit the numbers etc

Sorry :(
 
CaptainRAVE said:
All kinds of interesting rumours doing the rounds about Mercedes. All unsourced of course. I quite liked this one:

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Interesting if true and quite plausible, but of course this is one of loads of theories doing the rounds!
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I can certainly see Merc looking to optimise every component but I don’t believe they’re going to push things to the extent that your quote says.

After all, to finish first… first you have to finish.

It’s pointless winding up the engine to the extent it goes bang, but maybe they did this with the new unit at Brazil. Who knows?! :D

Who’s Eddie Jordan predicting? I’ll go opposite to that theory.
 
The FIA are basically saying it's ok to force someone off the track or deliberately drift into their path because it's "racing". Imagine Max moving over on a Merc at 200mph in Abu Dhabi on the back straight on the final lap. Tut tut Max...naughty. Here's a 5 second penalty finally...oh wait... you still win the champ.
 
Pigeon_Killer said:
Hopefully we eventually get to see the footage like we did in 2012 when everyone was absolutely adamant Vettel passed under a yellow flag and the title should've been awarded to Alonso instead. We even had people posting screenshots of him passing under a yellow flag and accusations of the FIA favouring Vettel over Alonso. All stopped the second an onboard video was released showing Vettel clearly pass under a green flag.
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Was that the incident when there was a slippery surface light on, and as they look like yellow flags on TV (they're clear as day in person) everyone was up in arms? It might have been a different race. There was so much going in that one that I've forgotten most of the middle of it! Best car control I think I've seen in modern F1 by Alonso coming out of Curvo do Sol though, especially given what was at stake.
 
Late to the party here but what this race showed and as have many others is Max has loads to learn still and ultimately Lewis is the greater racer due to experience. Pretty much every chance possible Max has done something to put him and Lewis out of the race and this attempt sunday was no different. I really do like Max, he has speed, comedy and he seems cool but he still has a lot to learn which given how long he's been in F1 is surprising. Lewis had the same but i think he matured very well on track
 
Regy53 said:
Late to the party here but what this race showed and as have many others is Max has loads to learn still and ultimately Lewis is the greater racer due to experience. Pretty much every chance possible Max has done something to put him and Lewis out of the race and this attempt sunday was no different. I really do like Max, he has speed, comedy and he seems cool but he still has a lot to learn which given how long he's been in F1 is surprising. Lewis had the same but i think he matured very well on track
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We'd get "Fiery Latin temperament" sound bites all the time if he was Latino but basically he's a hot head who has progressed well this year in hiding his fundamental temper/control issues but until he really tackles them is unlikely to be a great. He's quick but we've had that before. Kimi in his prime, Nando, Seb, Montoya, Mika, all super quick but had better control of their tendencies (Seb was a slow learner and even then he drove into Lewis deliberately in Baku!)
 
413x said:
9 from me.

Great race.
Hard to argue Hamilton isn't the greatest after a drive like that.
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The Hamster is a machine. Probably Cyberdyne systems.

Most (joint) titles
Most wins
Most poles
Most podiums
Most career points (adjusted)
Most points-scoring races
Most consecutive points finishes
Most consecutive points scored
Highest average points per race started
Highest percentage of points-scoring races
Most consecutive race finishes
Most races won leading every lap
Most races leading at least one lap
Most laps led in total
Longest distance led in total
Most poles and win in same race
 
jaybee said:
The Hamster is a machine. Probably Cyberdyne systems.

Most (joint) titles
Most wins
Most poles
Most podiums
Most career points (adjusted)
Most points-scoring races
Most consecutive points finishes
Most consecutive points scored
Highest average points per race started
Highest percentage of points-scoring races
Most consecutive race finishes
Most races won leading every lap
Most races leading at least one lap
Most laps led in total
Longest distance led in total
Most poles and win in same race
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He is immense, and like many winning drivers also had some luck. He came into F1 in the best car which helped him shine, rather than say a Minardi like Alonso, or Sauber, not that he would have stayed there long then the next move might have been to an upper mid-field team. That would have delayed or reduced his stats somewhat. Then there was the fact that when Merc came good, they had RB-style romance of over a 1 second a lap easily on the rest of field. Had things gone the other way I think he could very easily still only have 1 title now.

Of course others have come into a good car after only a season or and not faired anywhere near as well. So an unbelievable talent who I think is still currently under appreciated. In 10-20 years we'll likely look back on him more fondly. As people do with Prost, Senna etc..
 
englishpremier said:
Of course others have come into a good car after only a season or and not faired anywhere near as well.
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And very few have come into their first season against the driver widely considered to be the best in the sport at the time, and matched them. A little less tactical stupidity from McLaren and he'd have won his first season. Amazing achievement.
 
Mr Jack said:
And very few have come into their first season against the driver widely considered to be the best in the sport at the time, and matched them. A little less tactical stupidity from McLaren and he'd have won his first season. Amazing achievement.
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Lets see what happens next year with Russell and LH if they have a competitive car. LH is undoubtably a fantastic driver but he has had a ridiculously large advantage over everyone in the field for most of his championship wins. We saw what happened last season with Russell driving an ill fitting Merc for a single race. He nearly won it 3 times over despite Mercedes doing their utmost to ruin it (joking btw, I don't think any of the issues in that race were intentional).

And to those saying Verstappen lacks maturity or has a lot to learn, he is a product of his environment. Hes like a spoilt child who has never been put back in their box. Hes now at an age where I don't think that will change that much. He gets away with far more than he should be allowed to and that has led to him genuinely believing that when anything happens, its not his fault.

Basically he is a bit of a pillock on the track but at some point hopefully they will come down on him hard and he will realise he can't behave like that. I don't think he will ever believe that he is in the wrong but he will hopefully adjust his behaviour.
 
Mr Jack said:
And very few have come into their first season against the driver widely considered to be the best in the sport at the time, and matched them. A little less tactical stupidity from McLaren and he'd have won his first season. Amazing achievement.
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You could say less tactical stupidity and Alonso would have won. So that goes both ways.

Jacques Villeneuve is one I can remember immediately coming into the fastest car on the grid. Pole in his first race, and challenged for the championship. Mechanical failures and retirements cost him that season in 1996. He won in 1997, though should have wrapped the title up sooner. Then in 98 the Williams had non-works engines so was nowhere.
 
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