British Grand Prix 2010, Silverstone Circuit - Race 10/19

Flibster · 7 Jul 2010 at 21:24

sunama said:
Erm...what happened during the 2008 British GP?

Downpour before the race and starting on intermediates.
Track drying, at first pit stop several top drivers decided to keep on the worn inters rather than a new set.
Shortly after that - rain set in.
Barrichello towards the end switched to full wets and was ridiculously faster than everyone else on the circuit.
Massa unable to keep it on the tarmac - five spins iirc.
Hamilton winning by well over a minute
Barrichello on the podium in one of the worst F1 cars ever made.

Over Clocker · 7 Jul 2010 at 21:35

Can't wait!! Doesn't Silverstone look beautiful compared to some of the new tracks!

Skeeter · 7 Jul 2010 at 22:12

Flibster said:
Downpour before the race and starting on intermediates.
Track drying, at first pit stop several top drivers decided to keep on the worn inters rather than a new set.
Shortly after that - rain set in.
Barrichello towards the end switched to full wets and was ridiculously faster than everyone else on the circuit.
Massa unable to keep it on the tarmac - five spins iirc.
Hamilton winning by well over a minute
Barrichello on the podium in one of the worst F1 cars ever made.

Wasnt Hamilton doing laps a good handfull of seconds quicker than anyone else on Inters while the rest of the field were still crashing on full wets?

Loved that race. Future classic.

Over Clocker said:
Can't wait!! Doesn't Silverstone look beautiful compared to some of the new tracks!

Yes, yes indeed. Went to the GT racing earlier in the year. The Arena layout adds a lot to the track. It will need a few years to settle down (and for them to dig up the Bridge circuit) but its just an epic track.

Vix · 7 Jul 2010 at 22:24

o/ o/

Two of us

Setting off tomorrow

Glaucus · 7 Jul 2010 at 22:42

utajoker said:
when did the formula 1 site start doing the race highlights, do they have an archive?

since bbc took over, search for the last race threads for this year and last, not sure if the links will still work, they might.

JRS · 7 Jul 2010 at 22:57

I'm a tad surprised and sort of disappointed that '87 isn't in the 'classic races' list in place of '86.

I mean, at least it was actually held at the same venue as the current GP. And it did feature THAT charge back to the front from Mansell.

smr · 7 Jul 2010 at 23:29

Just bagged a couple of General Admission tickets for £260 off the bay which isn't bad considering we've left it so late this year!!

Last year we sat at Becketts, wondering - do you think Abbey would be a good place to sit this year?

Skeeter · 7 Jul 2010 at 23:54

smr said:
Just bagged a couple of General Admission tickets for £260 off the bay which isn't bad considering we've left it so late this year!!

Last year we sat at Becketts, wondering - do you think Abbey would be a good place to sit this year?

I dont think you will be able to get to Abbey with General Admission. The Farm side is blocked out by the Farm grandstand, and the inside is/was a campsite.

Trojan · 8 Jul 2010 at 11:51

Great OP there, very informative

I'm going to be optimistic and predict a Hamilton win here, if anybody really wants it, it's him. 2nd and 3rd I reckon Webber then Button. Vettel to crash out or limp around with suspension or gearbox issues.

sunama said:
Unless there is rain or some crazy incident, its difficult to see how anybody but Vettel or Webber can win this. RedBull have got a super car.

Not the most reliable of cars however which I can only hope comes to the fore this weekend.

ukpolska · 8 Jul 2010 at 12:18

AcidHell2 said:
Saturday 10 July
Practice three: 1055-1205, BBC Red Button/online
Qualifying: 1210-1430, BBC One/online and BBC Radio 5 live sport extra/online

I would like to make a slight correction to the practice timings. Practice 3 must finish no less than 2 hours before qualifying starts which means that it starts at 0955 and not 1055 as is stated above. It is not your mistake though because the BBC have it scheduled as starting at 1055 as well but trust me, it is 0955.

utajoker · 8 Jul 2010 at 13:24

there is a lot of talk of hamilton and buttons relationship about to explode at silverstone.

Duke · 8 Jul 2010 at 13:28

utajoker said:
there is a lot of talk of hamilton and buttons relationship about to explode at silverstone.

From the Red Bull camp.. who'd have thought?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85052

Moley · 8 Jul 2010 at 13:57

So I spent this morning at Silverstone - great place for a business meeting.

I work in IT security and provide services to a number of the teams, today I had a meeting with Virgin Racing and spent the morning as a guest in the pits with them
and took the opportunity to walk the pits and look into the other teams garages - plus Virgin were very cool and let me take photos in their garage of the cars.

Pics are a little large - sorry about that - but hope you like them.

McLaren's Garage:

Ferrari's Garage:

Ferrari's Pit Wall:

Sauber's Garage:

Williams' Garage:

Pit straight view from halfway down:

Renault and Force India:

Torro Rosso:

Lotus (Can you make out Heikke Kovaleinen at the back?):

Me standing in Virgins Garage:

View from the back:

Virgins Motorhome - great place for a meeting:

Anyway, I think it's safe to say I'll be cheering these guys on sunday.

Fr0dders · 8 Jul 2010 at 14:20

what sort of IT security does an F1 team need - encryption of wirless telemtry data etc.. i guess ??

Moley · 8 Jul 2010 at 14:25

I work more in the field of Intellectual Property protection.

sunama · 8 Jul 2010 at 14:41

Are Santander sponsoring this GP or something? Their brand/logo is plastered everywhere.

10 years ago, I hadnt even heard of Santander and now they are quite literally, everywhere.

sunama · 8 Jul 2010 at 15:06

Here's a question.

My understanding is that a team cannot redesign the core of their chassis (which has resulted in a problems when retrofitting their chassis with the F-Duct), however, they are allowed to use new chassis based around the original spec.

Why then, don't teams use brand new chassis for every single race? Why the recyling/re-use?

Is there some rule preventing them from doing this?

I remember "in the old days", you would have teams, sometimes bringing 2-3 different chassis, of differing designs to a single GP. The drivers would then go out in practise and decide which chassis they preferred and then use that for qualifying/race.

Similarly, I remember Renault and Honda having specific engines for qualifying and specific engines for racing. Honda once brought 4 different versions of their engine, for McLaren to try out (I think it was Mexico GP 1992, they did this) - such was the extravegance. This practise has been curtailed by subsequent rule changes.

xen_ · 8 Jul 2010 at 15:24

What would be the point using a new copy of the exact same chassis, would provide no benefit but with added cost.

sunama · 8 Jul 2010 at 15:36

xen_ said:
What would be the point using a new copy of the exact same chassis, would provide no benefit but with added cost.

The original chassis may have small fractures/cracks/damage, after running a full race distance.

A new chassis for every race ensures that the driver has a chassis with no damage.

Bringing a new engine/gearbox to every race will also have the same benefit, though this has been banned, forcing teams to re-use these parts.

Flibster · 8 Jul 2010 at 15:45

sunama said:
Here's a question.

My understanding is that a team cannot redesign the core of their chassis (which has resulted in a problems when retrofitting their chassis with the F-Duct), however, they are allowed to use new chassis based around the original spec.

Why then, don't teams use brand new chassis for every single race? Why the recyling/re-use?

Is there some rule preventing them from doing this?

Once the chassis design has gone through homologation at the start of the year - thats it. That is the chassis design for the year unless there is extreme circumstances and request permission to change the chassis design. Like Virgin Racing had to in order to fit the correctly sized fuel tank.

They could bring a new chassis for each car to each race, but as they have a life and are checked between races for damage, if they are passed as ok then there is no point changing it. Plus - ridiculously expensive and not quick and easy items to manufacture.

sunama said:
I remember "in the old days", you would have teams, sometimes bringing 2-3 different chassis, of differing designs to a single GP. The drivers would then go out in practise and decide which chassis they preferred and then use that for qualifying/race.

Generally, the chassis was the same, the variations would have been in other parts of the car. Normally it was just changes in wheelbase. Like Mercedes this year and McLaren a few years ago - they had a short and long wheelbase car and the main difference was the orientation of the suspension.

Although in the very old days of the qualifying special cars you got some remarkably extreme cars. Engines that would only do 3 laps. Minimal or no radiators at all... Then stripped and rebuilt overnight to the car they would actually race.