British Grand Prix 2011, Silverstone Circuit - Race 9/19

DBT85 · 9 Jul 2011 at 13:10

Honestly I'd love to see Williams do well this weekend. They might even manage it too.

knip · 9 Jul 2011 at 13:11

Todge said:
Honestly I'd love to see Williams do well this weekend. They might even manage it too.

And then you woke up

Goksly · 9 Jul 2011 at 13:12

For people saying red bull don't look handicapped - remember they often have a massive lead in quali and it gets pulled back in the race. So if they are just a smidge ahead in quali... the race will be very interesting!

Dr Who · 9 Jul 2011 at 13:13

Todge said:
Rules have changed of been clarified mid season before. Just as teams who cant compete should suck it up, so should teams after the rule change.

If Renault wanted to do something they shouldn't have bloody left it until Friday to pop their head up and mention it. Thats the long and short of it. They were well aware of what Mercedes were allowed to do before then.

Clarified yes, this is a wholesale change, and I am not talking about friday, I am talking about the decision to stop EBD weeks ago.

Sure, all teams have to suck it up, but when this rule change potentially makes the cars more dangerous midway through the season, I cannot see the rule change as a positive one just to stop RBR running away with it (and I hate to see RBR doing well, but they had? the best overall package).

sunama · 9 Jul 2011 at 13:13

knip said:
And then you woke up

LOL.

.:MBK:. · 9 Jul 2011 at 13:14

well its more RBR are meant to be screwed relative to the mercs...yet merc/mc are slower

Dr Who · 9 Jul 2011 at 13:14

Goksly said:
For people saying red bull don't look handicapped - remember they often have a massive lead in quali and it gets pulled back in the race. So if they are just a smidge ahead in quali... the race will be very interesting!

Yeah they used to, but they cannot change maps between qualifying and race start so maybe that had an impact as well.

Glaucus · 9 Jul 2011 at 13:14

Full on rain. I Said they should be thinking of a wet setup. I can see it raining tomorrow as well.

sunama · 9 Jul 2011 at 13:15

Goksly said:
For people saying red bull don't look handicapped - remember they often have a massive lead in quali and it gets pulled back in the race. So if they are just a smidge ahead in quali... the race will be very interesting!

Also bear in mind that on a damp track (which is what we have right now), the performance advantage of the faster cars, tend to be reduced. To be fast in damp/wet conditions relies much more heavily on driver ability (in wet/damp conditions). A bone dry track is the best way to compare pure car performance.

Dr Who · 9 Jul 2011 at 13:15

AcidHell2 said:
Full on rain. I Said they should be thinking of a wet setup. I can see it raining tomorrow as well.

Yeah was thinking that as well.

CaptainRAVE · 9 Jul 2011 at 13:15

The cars seem to have lost so much downforce now

Glaucus · 9 Jul 2011 at 13:16

Dr Who said:
Yeah was thinking that as well.

At least a halfway setup for one of the mid field cars.

CaptainRAVE · 9 Jul 2011 at 13:16

Should be a good race tomorrow with all of these showers

DBT85 · 9 Jul 2011 at 13:20

knip said:
And then you woke up

With an unpredictable Quali, and who knows what to happen in the race because of the EBD changes they could easily get good points here.

Nice to see a Lotus make it into Q2

Glaucus · 9 Jul 2011 at 13:20

Kov is through

more rain expected.

DBT85 · 9 Jul 2011 at 13:26

Dr Who said:
Clarified yes, this is a wholesale change, and I am not talking about friday, I am talking about the decision to stop EBD weeks ago.

They have not stopped EBD mid season, that stops at the end of the year. They have stopped the computer controlling the throttle when the driver isn't touching it because the rules at the start of the season said you can't have movable aero and the FIA has deemed that this IS movable aero because you are specifically making the engine into an air pump with the sole intention of producing downforce. On throttle it is just a secondary benefit to producing power.

If a team had protested it (which charlie has said was getting more and more likely) then the FIA would have had to stop it anyway because it can easily be seen as movable aero.

I too would prefer if rules were fixed for the season but thats not where we are and I can completely understand why they would stop it.

therealnerd2 · 9 Jul 2011 at 13:29

That camera on a wire is nuts.

apeZ · 9 Jul 2011 at 13:30

therealnerd2 said:
That camera on a wire is nuts.

How do they do that? I thought it was a helicopter at first...

therealnerd2 · 9 Jul 2011 at 13:31

apeZ said:
How do they do that? I thought it was a helicopter at first...

It looked like a very long wire from one stand to another with a camera moving along it....

DBT85 · 9 Jul 2011 at 13:33

apeZ said:
How do they do that? I thought it was a helicopter at first...

Its really simple and its been used in a lot of ball sports (american egg chasing, english egg chasing, footbal) for a while.

Its just a couple of wires strung between two points with a camera on like a chair lift. They can move the camera freely while it is pulled along the wire like a chair lift is.