Bruce Lee vs Modern Martial Arts

nemtizz · 6 Jul 2013 at 16:14

Raymond Lin said:
My thoughts exactly, it looks every scrappy. Like most street fights you see on the weekend after a bender.

Except these men are wearing speedos instead.

Where are you seeing Olympic medallists and world kickboxing champions duke it out in the street? Please, I have to witness this.

FeFiDoh · 6 Jul 2013 at 16:23

In his weight class I think he would probably win.

Another point for those that have no idea on UFC it really is not just meat heads fighting some of them have incredible skill sets and backgrounds. Plenty of Olympic wrestlers, black belts in bjj etc.. some amazing Thai kick boxing/kick boxing. Some of these guys are so incredibly well rounded and some even do what Lee does and analyse opponents closely and work out weaknesses. Anderson Silva is p4p one of the best ever to grace the sport.

Calling Silva a brawler is an insult btw. A brawl it could be 50/50 who ever lands a lucky shot first as there is no skill and they are just throwing wildly. His timing/technique/thai boxing skills/ability to nullify an opponent is not something a brawler does.

Swifty55 · 6 Jul 2013 at 16:30

Who is Burce Lee?

nemtizz · 6 Jul 2013 at 16:45

arknor said:
BTW mike tyson would probably destroy any martial artist in a cage fight assuming he was still near his peak

If Tyson had trained in all facets of MMA from the get-go then sure he'd have been a beast in the cage, but going into MMA as a pure boxer with no other skills locked down? He'd get annihilated, and by guys 10-20 pounds lighter.

ralv585 · 6 Jul 2013 at 17:01

Visage said:
I reckon Audley Harrison could have Bruce Lee.

Genuine LOL

deuse · 6 Jul 2013 at 17:03

aardvark said:
people seem to be thinking bruce lee was some sort of superman - he wasn't invincible you know.

Very true. But no one ever beat him

Rroff · 6 Jul 2013 at 17:05

PooBrain said:
Haha, a highlight reel showing him grabbing and kneeing. A little technique yes as any form of brawl consists of a little technique but you still haven't argued your point properly. Not to mention he would have to catch Bruce Lee first.

Yeah pretty easy to cut some best bits together to make a sportsman look good, to be fair tho even from that video it does show good ability to read his opponent (watch the bit at 1:47 ish).

Xordium · 6 Jul 2013 at 17:09

Rroff said:
Yeah pretty easy to cut some best bits together to make a sportsman look good, to be fair tho even from that video it does show good ability to read his opponent (watch the bit at 1:47 ish).

I think he classes technique as being exemplified by spinny, jumpy, bouncy stuff ie movie-fu.

Kaapstad · 6 Jul 2013 at 17:13

deuse said:
Very true. But no one ever beat him

I don't think I would give Bruce Lee much chance in the boxing ring vs Roberto Duran at lightweight in 1972.

Would Lee be able to handle the number of heavy punches he would have to take for 15 rounds (watch the video of Duran vs Buchanan) and in his early days Duran had the speed to deal with Lee.

nemtizz · 6 Jul 2013 at 17:15

PooBrain said:
MMA fighters don't fight like martial artists, they brawl. 1 on 1 with Bruce Lee without pinning him to the ground with a street technique and they would lose.

By any chance, are you in this video?

Xordium · 6 Jul 2013 at 17:16

deuse said:
Very true. But no one ever beat him

I've also never lost a professional fight. For the same reason - never done one.

Rroff · 6 Jul 2013 at 17:17

Theres one thing I do think - put Bruce Lee in a cage with a top MMA fighter I wouldn't want to call the outcome, put Bruce Lee in a cage with a top MMA fighter say 10 times over and I definitely think he'd come out on top in the long run.

nemtizz · 6 Jul 2013 at 17:21

Rroff said:
Theres one thing I do think - put Bruce Lee in a cage with a top MMA fighter I wouldn't want to call the outcome, put Bruce Lee in a cage with a top MMA fighter say 10 times over and I definitely think he'd come out on top in the long run.

Based on what? How can someone who has never trained BJJ or wrestling compete with even a lower-level professional mixed martial artist? Bruce was a BAMF but can he stop a double-leg takedown? Doubtful.

SexyGreyFox · 6 Jul 2013 at 17:41

Xordium said:
I've also never lost a professional fight. For the same reason - never done one.

Theophany · 6 Jul 2013 at 17:44

Rybo89 said:
Would he just stick one of his films on? Bore them to death?

YOU TAKE THAT BACK!! HIS FILMS ARE GENIUS MASTERPIECES OF THE STRAIGHT-TO-DVD GENRE. :mad:

Raymond Lin · 6 Jul 2013 at 17:45

nemtizz said:
Where are you seeing Olympic medallists and world kickboxing champions duke it out in the street? Please, I have to witness this.

Where did I mention Olympians, kickboxing or champions of any kind of martial arts fighting anywhere?

I merely stated those YouTube videos looks like street brawls, and doing it in speedos.

Rroff · 6 Jul 2013 at 17:46

nemtizz said:
Based on what? How can someone who has never trained BJJ or wrestling compete with even a lower-level professional mixed martial artist? Bruce was a BAMF but can he stop a double-leg takedown? Doubtful.

Never mind that theres dozens of videos (granted many of them are done for cinema) of him performing or countering many common takedowns including double-leg.

nemtizz · 6 Jul 2013 at 17:52

Rroff said:
Never mind that theres dozens of videos (granted many of them are done for cinema) of him performing or countering many common takedowns including double-leg.

Ah, the good old movie takedown defence, dtunning.

EDIT: Oops didn't mean to send that right away. Anyway, back in the day, sure, he might have been a threat in MMA but not in modern times. These young collegiate wrestlers would destroy him, as would many BJJ black belts.

arknor · 6 Jul 2013 at 17:56

Kaapstad said:
I don't think I would give Bruce Lee much chance in the boxing ring vs Roberto Duran at lightweight in 1972.

Would Lee be able to handle the number of heavy punches he would have to take for 15 rounds (watch the video of Duran vs Buchanan) and in his early days Duran had the speed to deal with Lee.

because bruce lee one of the fastest men ever alive is going to stand still for 15 rounds.

Whilst he doesn't have a lot of weight behind his punchers with the speed his hand moved I'm sure it would still surprise you. (even mike tyson could avoid punches lol go watch some of the old tyson fights and check how even a brick wall can move around)

good luck hugging a 1inch punch to.

( no I'm not saying bruce lee would win but I doubt it would be an easy fight regardless)

ShortWarning · 6 Jul 2013 at 17:58

I think the problem with a lot of people in this thread is they don't know what real fighting looks like.

MMA may look like brawling but that's what it looks like when 2 skilled fighters compete. What are you expecting? Spinning hook kicks, dragon punches and hadookens?

What you see in the movies isn't fighting...

Anyway, Bruce Lee was very skilled. If he trained MMA I have no doubt he would be very good at it however, he didn't train MMA so would not fair too well.

*Edit - Also Bruce Lee wasn't a fighter. Demonstrating a crazy quick punch and effectively using the same punch when you have an opponent trying to take your head off is very different.