BT Infinity & FTTx Discussion

DirtyJester · 27 Jun 2013 at 19:09

opethdisciple said:
Has any one used the HH4?

Does it have any benefit for a wired connection?

Would like to know this too

Westyfield2 · 27 Jun 2013 at 22:06

ZOMG, mine has appeared on the BT Wholesale Checker for the first time ever!

WBC FTTC - Up to 51.5Mbps Downstream - Up to 13.2Mbps Upstream - 31-Mar-14.

How accurate are the estimates normally? For ADSL2 it says 7.5/1... whereas my modem syncs at 13/1.2

MANFACE · 27 Jun 2013 at 23:10

BT will not give me fibre even though my exchange is fibre enabled...

Thank you for your enquiry about fibre broadband. Your exchange cabinet is not in the Openreach commercial roll out of fibre broadband. Our deployment is based on the commercial criteria for each cabinet and your cabinet fails to meet the commercial criteria. This is because the cabinet has too few premise connected to it, rendering it too small to provide a return on the investment based on the costs for the construction and on-going running costs of providing a new FTTC cabinet.

Greedy gits.

Rroff · 27 Jun 2013 at 23:18

Westyfield2 said:
ZOMG, mine has appeared on the BT Wholesale Checker for the first time ever!

WBC FTTC - Up to 51.5Mbps Downstream - Up to 13.2Mbps Upstream - 31-Mar-14.

How accurate are the estimates normally? For ADSL2 it says 7.5/1... whereas my modem syncs at 13/1.2

They are usually slightly under what you get. Good chance you will get around 60/17 give or take.

On Holiday · 27 Jun 2013 at 23:24

Westyfield2 · 27 Jun 2013 at 23:29

Rroff said:
They are usually slightly under what you get. Good chance you will get around 60/17 give or take.

Thanks!

parityboy · 28 Jun 2013 at 00:01

Westyfield2 said:
ZOMG, mine has appeared on the BT Wholesale Checker for the first time ever!

WBC FTTC - Up to 51.5Mbps Downstream - Up to 13.2Mbps Upstream - 31-Mar-14.

How accurate are the estimates normally? For ADSL2 it says 7.5/1... whereas my modem syncs at 13/1.2

If you know where your cabinet is, and read this page you should get an idea of realistically what you can expect.

VDSL2 deteriorates quickly from a theoretical maximum of 250 Mbit/s at source to 100 Mbit/s at 0.5 km (1,600 ft) and 50 Mbit/s at 1 km (3,300 ft), but degrades at a much slower rate from there, and outperforms VDSL. Starting from 1.6 km (1 mi) its performance is equal to ADSL2+.

OpenReach estimates are fairly conservative towards the higher end of the speed scale, and more accurate towards the lower end.

For example, the ADSL checker says I'm estimated for 59.1Mb/s down, and 20Mb/s up. I'm 320M from my cabinet (by road), so I'll probably get ~75Mb/s.

just Scott · 28 Jun 2013 at 14:59

Yesterday: Fibre optic broadband is estimated to be in your area by June 2013

Today: Fibre optic broadband is estimated to be in your area between June 2013 and September 2013

Why you do this to me every time BT

It's been pushed back every 3 months since like july 2012

andi · 28 Jun 2013 at 16:23

Should new installs now get the homehub 3 or 4? I had infinity 2 installed last week and got a homehub 3, not 4, surely I should have got the latest model?

Jarrod · 28 Jun 2013 at 16:53

I got given a mid august eta from the openreach enquries, however BT wholesale checker states 31March 2014

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WBC FTTC Up to 40 Up to 6.5 -- 31-Mar-14

6.5 upload? That's a bit low?

Might be better off staying with Virgin after all

just Scott · 28 Jun 2013 at 17:00

Jarrod said:
I got given a mid august eta from the openreach enquries, however BT wholesale checker states 31March 2014 .

WBC FTTC Up to 40 Up to 6.5 -- 31-Mar-14

6.5 upload? That's a bit low?

Might be better off staying with Virgin after all

My estimated speed is only 26/5.5 lol

SuperOwl86 · 28 Jun 2013 at 17:53

Jarrod said:
I got given a mid august eta from the openreach enquries, however BT wholesale checker states 31March 2014 .

WBC FTTC Up to 40 Up to 6.5 -- 31-Mar-14

6.5 upload? That's a bit low?

Might be better off staying with Virgin after all

I got the same also.

Lartyconshayo · 28 Jun 2013 at 18:11

Cuchulainn said:
My address has appeared on the wholesale availability checker today, for the first time.

Via e-mail they gave me a ready date of early to mid August but the checker says "available Mar-14".

Me too

Just checked and the FTTC is showing for the first time also but the date's moved from mid -late sept 2013 via email tp mar 2014 on checker. Boo

russ9898 · 28 Jun 2013 at 20:12

My exchange has just changed in the last couple of hours from "Future exchange - end of 2013" to "Coming Soon - September 2013".

It looks like most cabinets in the area are now installed and have seen a hell of a lot of Openreach activity in the area so hopefully the estimate is fairly accurate.

[Darkend]Viper · 28 Jun 2013 at 22:40

well just been on checker and it's been updated to coming soon from future exchanges, so things are looking good there, but there's still no work on the cab i'm connected to, might have to see if there's any alternatives!!

Wouldn't mind but I can see the vm cab 50m away in a straight line, but they won't run a cable to my house!!

parityboy · 29 Jun 2013 at 00:12

*sigh*

My cabinet has now been pushed back to 31 March 2014 - an hour ago it was 30 June 2013, and OR told me it was planned to be available by the end of May 2013! The fibre cabinet is there, it has cables run between it and the PCP.

What exactly is the point in siting a cabinet, connecting it up and then leaving it for a YEAR?

Robbiec053 · 29 Jun 2013 at 00:36

Checker has just updated to coming soon - december 2013.

Hopefully should see it sooner than then as the other exchange in the area is being upgraded ~ september 2013.

Vampyre · 29 Jun 2013 at 11:27

andi said:
Should new installs now get the homehub 3 or 4? I had infinity 2 installed last week and got a homehub 3, not 4, surely I should have got the latest model?

I thought anything after 1st June 2013 would get a HH4, did you have a HH3 sent to you or did the engineer provide it?

NUTTER123 · 29 Jun 2013 at 12:33

Got my HH4 Yesterday (£35) I admit I not too impressed with the stand part of it. Don't really like it to be honest and the plug was a bit of a bugger to get in at first but it seems to be working fine. Hopefully no more upload issues I had regulary with the HH3.

(Speedtests)

http://www.speedtest.net/result/2804559480.png

1. Best Effort Test: -provides background information.

Download Speed
49.89 Mbps

0 Mbps 52.18 Mbps
Max Achievable Speed

Download speedachieved during the test was - 49.89 Mbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speedsis 16 Mbps-52.18 Mbps .
Additional Information:
IP Profile for your line is - 52.18 Mbps

2. Upstream Test: -provides background information.

Upload Speed
8.86 Mbps

0 Mbps 20 Mbps
Max Achievable Speed

Upload speed achieved during the test was - 8.86Mbps
Additional Information:
Upstream Rate IP profile on your line is - 20 Mbps

We were unable to identify any performance problem with your service at this time.
It is possible that any problem you are currently, or had previously experienced may have been caused by traffic congestion on the Internet or by the server you were accessing responding slowly.
If you continue to encounter a problem with a specific server, please contact the administrator of that server in the first instance.

Slightly down from usual but nothing a reboot will probably solve

bulldog147 · 29 Jun 2013 at 18:00

MANFACE said:
BT will not give me fibre even though my exchange is fibre enabled...

Thank you for your enquiry about fibre broadband. Your exchange cabinet is not in the Openreach commercial roll out of fibre broadband. Our deployment is based on the commercial criteria for each cabinet and your cabinet fails to meet the commercial criteria. This is because the cabinet has too few premise connected to it, rendering it too small to provide a return on the investment based on the costs for the construction and on-going running costs of providing a new FTTC cabinet.

Greedy gits.

complaint to your local MP and council