BT Infinity & FTTx Discussion

86JR · 25 Nov 2013 at 21:31

Ubernoob, better to put your phone number into this http://www.samknows.com/broadband/broadband_checker it is much more accurate via phone number than post code.

The Bt checker tells me FTTC not available in my area via my post code but 40mbit FTTC available via my phone number.

86JR · 25 Nov 2013 at 21:43

stulid said:
You are probably connected directly to the exchange like I am. Thus you are out of luck as they won't upgrade you due to it not making financial sense.

Don't be so sure.

I am apparently connected straight to the exchange that is 3.5km away, on *DSL I always had really low speeds. Yet my FTTC shows active and the order went through etc. Honestly I think they are changing people to cabinets and not updating the wholesale checker quickly enough.

ubern00b · 25 Nov 2013 at 21:46

Thanks for the info. Now to find out what the heck my phone number is...

bremen1874 · 25 Nov 2013 at 21:55

twoblacklines said:
Anyone got fibre with zen?

When the BT engineer comes and fits the modem, is it a HomeHub, and if so how do I completely disable the ability for people to pay BT to use my wireless connection (which is super cheeky IMO!, let alone dangerous!)?

The BT that acts as an ISP, and provides the Home Hub, is different to the BT (Openreach) that sends the engineer to configure your connection.

OpenReach will provide you with a fibre modem. You, or your ISP, then provide the router to plug into it.

86JR · 25 Nov 2013 at 21:57

Ok. I have two routers, my current Linksys WAG120N and a Netgear WNR2200 I had to buy when I signed up with Zen (no option not to purchase one). Which is best to use?

bremen1874 · 25 Nov 2013 at 22:00

A WAG120N is an ADSL only router isn't it?

KIA · 25 Nov 2013 at 22:53

ubern00b said:
http://fttc-check.alc.im/results.php?postcode=WD180BT

What does this mean? I don't think I'll ever be getting fibre

Don't rely on this site. The data is from 2011.

Lartyconshayo · 25 Nov 2013 at 23:17

so the place I have to move out of should get Fttc from end of January 2014. The place we look to be moving into does not appear to be attached to a cabinet that's part of the rollout. But it has double the adsl2+ speeds quoted on the checker for my current address.

The new place is quarter of a mile away maybe. Unbelievable.....

Bubo · 26 Nov 2013 at 10:45

This is probably a very very daft question. I am on Virgin Media cable, I got a letter through the door the other day from BT going on about BT Infinity. As far as I know there is no BT specific fibre infrastructure to my street, only Virgin. My very very daft question is, do Virgin have to let BT use their fibre infrastructure in the same way BT have to let other operators use their copper infrastructure, such that I can get BT fibre? Almost certain the answer is no, but no harm in asking.

Rroff · 26 Nov 2013 at 17:36

Any one have any insight into the new hop thats appearing on tracerts on BT FTTC? (seen a few people have it now).

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms www.asusnetwork.net [192.168.1.1]
2 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms 172.16.14.3

My connection went down briefly the other day and after it came back up the 2nd hop has changed - 172.16.x.x-172.31.x.x is usually used for LAN IPs. (I've checked and doesn't seem I've been put on carrier grade NAT or anything).

EDIT: Obviously no reason why they wouldn't be a LAN IP for internal routing but curious as to what has changed and/or if its anything a bit dodgy on BT's part.

KIA · 26 Nov 2013 at 17:45

Bubo said:
do Virgin have to let BT use their fibre infrastructure in the same way BT have to let other operators use their copper infrastructure, such that I can get BT fibre?

No. BT Infinity is VDSL2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very-high-bit-rate_digital_subscriber_line_2

El Jimben · 26 Nov 2013 at 21:46

Can anyone suggest why my ping is now worse with Fibre than it was with ADSL? It used to be 18-20ms and now it's 33-35ms.

Rroff · 26 Nov 2013 at 21:50

If its just been connected up it might have defaulted to interleave type mode and will settle back to fastpath "usually" when the line has had time to stabalise.

El Jimben · 26 Nov 2013 at 22:57

Rroff said:
If its just been connected up it might have defaulted to interleave type mode and will settle back to fastpath "usually" when the line has had time to stabalise.

I've had it for about 2 months or so. Some websites seem really slow to low too but there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason as to which and the same ones aren't affected all the time. Do you think that there could be some kind or underlying issue?

monkeyspank · 26 Nov 2013 at 23:09

Because you cheated in a pub quiz once

KIA · 26 Nov 2013 at 23:12

El Jimben said:
ISome websites seem really slow to low too but there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason as to which and the same ones aren't affected all the time.

Which DNS servers are you using?

El Jimben · 26 Nov 2013 at 23:14

KIA said:
Which DNS servers are you using?

How would I check that?

KIA · 27 Nov 2013 at 13:22

El Jimben said:
How would I check that?

In this case, you're probably using your ISP's DNS servers.

http://use.opendns.com/
https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/

Armadillo · 28 Nov 2013 at 16:47

Infinity is looking the better deal for me, but I already have bt line rental with some of their features (answer phone etc).

But I don't think I have a bt log in (still got paper bills). So what's the best way to make the order, as the bundles on the site, look like they are for complete new customers.

Phone them? or if I'm with them for rental do I have a log in I just don't know about

Also how is the jump to fibre? Do I still grab a MAC code from my current provider, if not, how do I get minimal downtime.

Thanks

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djimty · 28 Nov 2013 at 18:52

Openreach really do take mick. We were scheduled to have our Fibre enabled this Saturday but yesterday they only just changed it and pushed it back till end of February next year.