Canadian Grand Prix 2012, Montréal - Race 7/20

Firstly, must say it was a great race by Lewis. He really looked on it all weekend.

There's still a long way to go yet, might even make things easier for Jenson when his car gets better.

Psychologically it might make things easier to come up around the outside to to speak whilst the others start getting more hot headed as the season progresses and start squabbling over 1st, 2nd and 3rd in the Championship.

As Jenson says it's definitely not a tyre issue, there's no way you go from winning in Australia like that to his performance yesterday, something is fundamentally wrong with the way the car is being set up.

Then there's the whole aspect of only pumping 15 laps in during P2 which was basically a waste of time anyway as he didn't get enough time to set the car up to his liking.

On to the next race!
 
But at least for us Jenson Button fans we had the fittest grid girls of the season so far to look at :D

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EVH said:
This is what I'm thinking. Or let Hamilton on Buttons car in FP1, is that legal?
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I guess they would have to change gearbox /engine (and nose) at the very least

There is definitely something fundamentally wrong, but its pretty certain that no-one in here (with no analytical data to go from) is going to get the answer when countless engineers etc cant with all the tools available.

Its also apparant that Ferrari and Redbull are developing their cars at a faster rate than McLaren (Alonso and SV did well on iffy strategy's) , I did fast forward a lot last night but I think it was the strategy from each team which imo cost them places)

Happy for Perez and Grojean, they had really good races.
 
If there is such an issue which they can't find, just change the chassis and see what happens. I'm not sure it would solve the issue. But only time will tell. It might just be one of those things where the driver can't handle the new rules. It's happened before. But then it might just be an issue which they can solve.
 
Thinking back to the race, i am really surprised Alonso and Vettel didnt come into the pits after Hamiltons first few laps on fresh tyres. It was clear that Hamilton was going to hunt them down quite easily with ~15 laps to go. If they pitted Alonso and Vettel they could have at least been on the podium most likely.
 
Jono8 said:
Thinking back to the race, i am really surprised Alonso and Vettel didnt come into the pits after Hamiltons first few laps on fresh tyres. It was clear that Hamilton was going to hunt them down quite easily with ~15 laps to go. If they pitted Alonso and Vettel they could have at least been on the podium most likely.
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Clear in hindsight, as Stefano said they just thought they could do a longer stint before the drop off. But they were wrong. Understanding these tyres really is a pita for the teams.
 
Yeah I agree most where, but could the claim be made that the drs use at the end of the lap before helped close the gap to set up for an overtake the next lap?

I don't know.

I do think the battle between the top 3 would have been far more interesting without it.
 
Maybe, but then DRS is available to everyone. If the drivers in question were close enough the guy who got overtaken would only have to stay within a second for the next lap to get their own shot at it. It doesn't help people catch up, it helps them get past once they have already caught up.

I think the battles after the first pit stops might have been slightly different, but not much without DRS, but the ones at the end of the race were entirely down to tyres with DRS having no effect at all.

People do seem to forget that DRS is available to everyone though. If you loose over a second on someone over a lap, would you have been able to keep them behind without DRS? The back straight at Canada was always a prolific overtaking spot anyway. With the 1 move rule the DRS seemed to really just cement overtakes that would have happened anyway without it.
 
Jono8 said:
Thinking back to the race, i am really surprised Alonso and Vettel didnt come into the pits after Hamiltons first few laps on fresh tyres. It was clear that Hamilton was going to hunt them down quite easily with ~15 laps to go. If they pitted Alonso and Vettel they could have at least been on the podium most likely.
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They all seemed to be stuck in the Monaco mentality of no possible overtaking.
 
I'm not commenting on Canada specifically but I thought the reason DRS was introduced was that even of you were substantially quicker it was very hard to overtake...
 
Panzerbjorn said:
I'm not commenting on Canada specifically but I thought the reason DRS was introduced was that even of you were substantially quicker it was very hard to overtake...
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Yes, the idea was that it stopped people being stuck behind someone considerably slower than them due to the overall difficultness (is that a word?) of overtaking in F1. To stop things like Trulli-Trains ruining the racing.

In places it has been far to easy, there's no denying that, but for Canada specifically I don't think it gifted anyone an overtake that they otherwise wouldn't have got.
 
Agreed. it helped the overtake be successful but I don't think it gave anything to the person behind they weren't going to get anyway. IMo vettel made the right decision by pitting. Alonso didn't, but considering the car Ferrari had in Aus they've made some big steps.
 
Ok, how about this as a suggestion for Canada. They put the DRS zone between the 3rd chicane and the hairpin.

It makes the hairpin more of an overtaking oportunity, but for those that don't get past there, it puts them right on the tail of the guy in front exiting the chicane increasing the chance of a 'natural' overtake down the back straight?
 
Drs isn't available to everyone.
It needs to be gotten rid off.

How about actually overtaking and defense not push to pass.
The leader has no chance to use drs, person behind sales past and that's that.

What happened to the days where a car in trouble could hold position and defend for the last few laps. That was out of your seat, screaming at the tv. Now 20 years later, no such defense can be mounted, you're screwed,
 
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